From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:53:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BACBC68.5050401@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m31vf7pm82.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
On 03/26/2010 02:37 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Adding to this C wrappers for QMP commands threatens to make QMP command
> arguments part of the library ABI. Compatible QMP evolution (like
> adding an optional argument) turns into a libqmp soname bump.
> Counter-productive. How do you plan to avoid that?
>
I had thought about this. I think there's a couple ways to handle it.
You could ignore it and just not change existing symbols. You could
also introduce new functions any time an optional argument is added.
Another option is to add a struct as a final argument whenever such a
change happens that's padded. Then new optional arguments can be added
to the struct.
>> Yes, this means you can't just create a JSON-RPC object in Python and
>> talk QMP that way, but that's less desirable than you think it is.
>>
>> You could if you really wanted to, but you wouldn't get the benefits
>> of the common transports.
>>
>> IOW, imagine qemu-cmd. You want it to support:
>>
>> # qmp_new_by_name("Fedora")
>> qemu-cmd Fedora set_link on
>>
>> # libqemu-ssh.so - ssh_qmp_new()
>> qemu-cmd ssh://anthony@lab1.ibm/Fedora set_link on
>>
>> # qmp_new_by_fd()
>> qemu-cmd -c /path/to/domain/socket set_link on
>>
>> # libvirt-qemu.so - virDomainGetQMP()
>> qemu-cmd -b qemu+ssh://lab1.ibm/system Fedora set_link on
>>
>> This requires a high level transport.
>>
> All I'd want from such a transport is a file descriptor. No need to
> drag in yet another JSON library via libqmp.
>
Then you don't standardize creation which is probably where most of the
complexity occurs.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-26 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 8:54 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 7:35 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 0:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 2:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 7:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 8:49 ` Juan Quintela
[not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 5:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 0:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 7:49 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 8:26 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 2:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26 9:26 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-25 13:37 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 2:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 6:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 8:18 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 5:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 2:31 ` Jamie Lokier
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