From: Yoshiaki Tamura <tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
ohmura.kei@lab.ntt.co.jp, mtosatti@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] Modifies wrapper functions for byte-based phys_ram_dirty bitmap to bit-based phys_ram_dirty bitmap.
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:49:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC44C4D.7080806@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BC43769.5050400@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 04/13/2010 11:01 AM, Yoshiaki Tamura wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 04/12/2010 01:58 PM, Yoshiaki Tamura wrote:
>>>>> Is it necessary to update migration and vga bitmaps?
>>>>>
>>>>> We can simply update the master bitmap, and update the migration
>>>>> and vga
>>>>> bitmaps only when they need it. That can be done in a different patch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let me explain the role of the master bitmap here.
>>>>
>>>> In the previous discussion, the master bitmap represented at least one
>>>> dirty type is actually dirty. While implementing this approach, I
>>>> though there is one downside that upon resetting the bitmap, it needs
>>>> to check all dirty types whether they are already cleared to unset the
>>>> master bitmap, and this might hurt the performance in general.
>>>
>>> The way I see it, the master bitmap is a buffer between the guest and
>>> all the other client bitmaps (migration and vga). So, a bit can be set
>>> in vga and cleared in master. Let's look at the following scenario:
>>>
>>> 1. guest touches address 0xa0000 (page 0xa0)
>>> 2. qemu updates master bitmap bit 0xa0
>>> 3. vga timer fires
>>> 4. vga syncs the dirty bitmap for addresses 0xa0000-0xc0000
>>> 4.1 vga_bitmap[0xa0-0xc0] |= master_bitmap[0xa0-0xc0]
>>> 4.2 migration_bitmap[0xa0-0xc0] |= master_bitmap[0xa0-0xc0]
>>> 4.3 master_bitmap[0xa0-0xc0] = 0
>>> 5. vga draws based on vga_bitmap
>>>
>>> the nice thing is that step 4.2 can be omitted if migration is not
>>> active.
>>>
>>> so, client bitmaps are always updated when the client requests them,
>>> master bitmap is only a buffer.
>>
>> Thanks. I think I'm finally getting your point.
>> At 4.2 and 4.3, is syncing to client necessary?
>
> Yes. We want to clear the master bitmap, otherwise on the next iteration
> we will get dirty bits that may be spurious. But if we clear the dirty
> bitmap, we must copy it to all client bitmaps, not just vga, otherwise
> we lose data.
>
>> Simply doing OR at get_dirty like in this patch not enough?
>
> If you don't clear the master bitmap, then you will get the same bits at
> the next iteration.
OK.
Master is just a cache/buffer, and upon get_dirty, we copy it to client bitmaps
with for loop, clear the master and finally check actual client bitmap. If
we're going to allocate client bitmaps dynamically, we need to check whether it
isn't null too.
>>>> In this patch, master bitmap represents all types are dirty, similar
>>>> to existing 0xff. With this approach, resetting the master bitmap can
>>>> be done without checking the other types. set_dirty_flags is actually
>>>> taking the burden in this case though. Anyway, IIUC somebody would be
>>>> unhappy depending on the role of the master bitmap.
>>>
>>> Yes, the problem is that set_dirty_flags is the common case and also
>>> uses random access, we'd want to make it touch only a single bit. client
>>> access is rare, and also sequential, and therefore efficient.
>>
>> I see.
>> So set_dirty_flags would be like,
>>
>> 1. set master first regard less of dirty type.
>> 2. if dirty type was CODE, set the client.
>
> There really should be two APIs, one for general dirtyness and one for
> code dirty. As Anthony said, the code dirty bitmap is completely
> separate from the other uses.
>
> Consider starting by separating the two uses, it may clear up the code
> and make things easier later on.
That really make sense. A little bit hesitant because the code might look a bit
duplicated.
>> In summary, I'll prepare two patch sets.
>>
>> 1. v3 of this patch set.
>> - Change FLAGS value to (1,2,4,8), and add IDX (0,1,2,3)
>> - Use ffsl to convert FLAGS to IDX.
>> - Add help function which takes IDX.
>> - Change the behavior of set_dirty_flags as above.
>> - Change dirty bitmap access to a loop.
>> - Add brace after if ()
>> - Move some macros to qemu-common.h.
>>
>> 2. Allocate vga and migration dirty bitmap dynamically.
>>
>> Please modify or add items if I were missing.
>
> I would add separation of CODE and the other dirty bitmaps.
I'm not sure I should starting separating first or later at this moment, but
will consider it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-13 10:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-06 0:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] Introduce bit-based phys_ram_dirty, and bit-based dirty page checker Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-06 0:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/6] Modify DIRTY_FLAG value to use as indexes of bit-based phys_ram_dirty Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-06 0:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/6] Introduce bit-based phys_ram_dirty for VGA, CODE, MIGRATION and MASTER Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-12 8:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-04-12 9:39 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-12 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 0:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/6] Modifies wrapper functions for byte-based phys_ram_dirty bitmap to bit-based phys_ram_dirty bitmap Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-12 8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-04-12 10:58 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-12 11:09 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-13 8:01 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-13 9:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-13 10:49 ` Yoshiaki Tamura [this message]
2010-04-06 0:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/6] Introduce cpu_physical_memory_get_dirty_range() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-06 0:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/6] Use cpu_physical_memory_set_dirty_range() to update phys_ram_dirty Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-06 0:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/6] Use cpu_physical_memory_get_dirty_range() to check multiple dirty pages Yoshiaki Tamura
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