From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for Apr 27
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:14:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD69D03.2050502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BD61584.9080208@codemonkey.ws>
On 04/27/2010 01:36 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> A few comments:
>
> 1) The problem was not block watermark itself but generating a
> notification on the watermark threshold. It's a heuristic and should
> be implemented based on polling block stats.
Polling for an event that never happens is bad engineering. What
frequency do you poll? you're forcing the user to make a lose-lose
tradeoff.
> Otherwise, we'll be adding tons of events to qemu that we'll struggle
> to maintain.
That's not a valid reason to reject a user requirement. We may argue
the requirement is bogus, or that the suggested implementation is wrong
and point in a different direction, but saying that we may have to add
more code in the future due to other requirements is ... well I can't
find a word for it.
>
> 2) A block plugin doesn't solve the problem if it's just at the
> BlockDriverState level because it can't interact with qcow2.
Why not? We have a layered model. guest -> qcow2 -> plugin (sends
event) -> raw-posix. Just need to insert the plugin at the appropriate
layer.
>
> 3) For general block plugins, it's probably better to tackle userspace
> block devices. We have CUSE and FUSE already, a BUSE is a logical
> conclusion.
We also have an nbd client.
Here's another option: an nbd-like protocol that remotes all
BlockDriver operations except read and write over a unix domain socket.
The open operation returns an fd (SCM_RIGHTS strikes again) that is used
for read and write. This can be used to implement snapshots over LVM,
for example.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-27 8:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-26 17:26 [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for Apr 27 Chris Wright
2010-04-26 17:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-04-26 22:12 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-26 22:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 8:14 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-27 8:48 ` Dor Laor
2010-04-27 8:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 9:08 ` Dor Laor
2010-04-27 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 9:32 ` Dor Laor
2010-04-27 9:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 9:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 13:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-27 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 13:38 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-27 14:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 8:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 14:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 11:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 13:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 13:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 1:15 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-27 3:39 ` Aurelien Jarno
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