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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	armbru@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add flush=off parameter to -drive
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 17:18:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE97545.80701@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005111315.08897.paul@codesourcery.com>

Paul Brook wrote:
>>> What about another cache=... value instead of adding more options? I'm
>>> quite sure you'll only ever need this with writeback caching. So we
>>> could have cache=none|writethrough|writeback|wb-noflush or something
>>> like that.
>>>       
>
> I agree.
>  
>   
>> The cache option really isn't too useful.  There's a matrix of 3x2
>> possible I/O modes for the posix backend, and right now we only expose
>> two of them.  I think we really should expose all of them, split into
>> two options:
>>
>>                                       caching
>>
>>                     | normal             | O_DIRECT           |
>>
>>             --------+--------------------+--------------------+
>>             none    | -                  | -                  |
>> integrity   O_DSYNC | cache=writeback    | -                  |
>>             fsync   | cache=writethrough | cache=none         |
>>             --------+--------------------+--------------------+
>>     
>
> I think this table is misleading, and from a user perspective there are only 4 
> interesting combinations:
>
> cache=none:
>   No host caching. Reads and writes both go directly to underlying storage. 
> Useful to avoid double-caching.
>
> cache=writethrough
>   Reads are cached. Writes go directly to underlying storage.  Useful for 
> broken guests that aren't aware of drive caches.
>
> cache=writeback
>   Reads and writes are cached. Guest flushes are honoured. Note that this may 
> include a guest visible knob that allows the write cache to be disabled. If 
> the guest requests the cache be disabled then this should act the same as 
> cache=writethrough. Closest to how real hardware works.
>
> cache=always (or a more scary name like cache=lie to defend against idiots)
>   Reads and writes are cached. Guest flushes are ignored.  Useful for dumb 
> guests in non-critical environments.
>   

How about cache=insecure?

But I agree. Having that as a cache= option seems to be the easiest way
to expose it to a user.


Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-11 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-10 21:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Enable qemu block layer to not flush Alexander Graf
2010-05-10 21:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add no-op aio emulation stub Alexander Graf
2010-05-10 21:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add flush=off parameter to -drive Alexander Graf
2010-05-11  8:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-05-11 10:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-11 12:15         ` Paul Brook
2010-05-11 12:43           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 13:12             ` Paul Brook
2010-05-11 13:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 13:50                 ` Paul Brook
2010-05-11 15:40                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 15:53                     ` Paul Brook
2010-05-11 17:09                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 22:33                         ` Paul Brook
2010-05-11 19:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11 16:32                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-11 17:15                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 18:13                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-11 15:18           ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2010-05-11 18:20           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-11 21:58             ` Paul Brook
2010-05-11 22:11               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-12 10:09                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-17 12:40                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-14  9:16         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-17 12:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-17 12:42             ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-11 19:04       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-12 15:05       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-12 15:36         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-12 15:51           ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-11  6:18   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add no-op aio emulation stub Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-11  8:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-05-10 21:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Enable qemu block layer to not flush Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 22:03   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-10 22:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 21:48       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-12  8:51         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-12  9:42           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-12 10:43             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-12 12:50               ` Jamie Lokier

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