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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Cam Macdonell <cam@cs.ualberta.ca>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] Inter-VM shared memory PCI device
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 21:13:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE99E32.3020507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BE98E4A.3010708@codemonkey.ws>

On 05/11/2010 08:05 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/11/2010 11:39 AM, Cam Macdonell wrote:
>>
>> Most of the people I hear from who are using my patch are using a peer
>> model to share data between applications (simulations, JVMs, etc).
>> But guest-to-host applications work as well of course.
>>
>> I think "transparent migration" can be achieved by making the
>> connected/disconnected state transparent to the application.
>>
>> When using the shared memory server, the server has to be setup anyway
>> on the new host and copying the memory region could be part of that as
>> well if the application needs the contents preserved.  I don't think
>> it has to be handled by the savevm/loadvm operations.  There's little
>> difference between naming one VM the master or letting the shared
>> memory server act like a master.
>
> Except that to make it work with the shared memory server, you need 
> the server to participate in the live migration protocol which is 
> something I'd prefer to avoid at it introduces additional down time.

We can tunnel its migration data through qemu.  Of course, gathering its 
dirty bitmap will be interesting.  DSM may be the way to go here (we can 
even live migrate qemu through DSM: share the guest address space and 
immediately start running on the destination node; the guest will fault 
its memory to the destination.  An advantage is that that the cpu load 
is immediately transferred.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-11 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-21 17:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/5] PCI Shared Memory device Cam Macdonell
2010-04-21 17:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/5] Device specification for shared memory PCI device Cam Macdonell
2010-04-21 17:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/5] Support adding a file to qemu's ram allocation Cam Macdonell
2010-04-21 17:53     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 3/5] Add functions for assigning ioeventfd and irqfds Cam Macdonell
2010-04-21 17:53       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/5] Inter-VM shared memory PCI device Cam Macdonell
2010-04-21 18:00         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 5/5] shared memory server for inter-VM shared memory Cam Macdonell
2010-05-05 16:57         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/5] RESEND: Inter-VM shared memory PCI device Cam Macdonell
2010-05-06 17:32         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] " Anthony Liguori
2010-05-06 17:59           ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-10 11:59         ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 15:22           ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-10 15:28             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 15:38               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 16:20                 ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-10 16:52                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-18 16:58                     ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-18 17:27                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 16:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 17:25                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 17:43                     ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-10 17:52                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 18:01                         ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-11  7:59                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11 13:10                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 14:03                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11 14:17                               ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-11 14:53                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11 15:51                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 16:39                                     ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-11 17:05                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-11 17:50                                         ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-11 18:13                                         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-05-12 15:32                                           ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-12 15:48                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11 18:09                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11  7:55                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 15:41               ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-10 16:40                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 16:48                   ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-12 15:49                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-12 16:14                       ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-12 16:45                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 23:17           ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-11  8:03             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-13 21:10           ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-15  6:05             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 10:43       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v5 3/5] Add functions for assigning ioeventfd and irqfds Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 15:13         ` Cam Macdonell
2010-05-10 15:17           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 10:39     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v5 2/5] Support adding a file to qemu's ram allocation Avi Kivity
2010-05-10 15:32       ` Cam Macdonell

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