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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, hch@lst.de
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add cache=volatile parameter to -drive
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:04:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF14CE9.5040907@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF1440E.9040209@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/17/2010 08:17 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> On 17.05.2010, at 15:09, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> On 05/17/2010 08:02 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>     
>>>>> My concern is that ext3 exaggerates the cost of fsync() which will
>>>>> result in diminishing value over time for this feature as people
>>>>> move to ext4/btrfs.
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> There will be ext3 file systems for years out. Just because people
>>>> can use better and faster file systems doesn't mean they do. And
>>>> I'm sure they can't always choose. If anything, I can try and see
>>>> what the numbers look like for xfs.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> But ext3 with barrier=1 is pretty uncommon in practice.  Another
>>> data point would be an ext3 host file system with barrier=0.
>>>      
>> Who defines what is common and what not? To me, the SLES11 default is
>> common. In fact, the numbers in the referred mail were done on an
>> 11.1 system.
>>    
>
> But it wasn't the SLES10 default so there's a smaller window of
> systems that are going to be configured this way.  But this is
> orthogonal to the main point.  Let's quantify how important this
> detail is before we discuss the affected user base.

Alright. I took my Netbook (2GB of RAM) and a USB hard disk, so I can
easily remount the data fs the vmdk image is on. Here are the results:

# mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1
# mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt -obarrier=1

cache=writeback

real    0m52.801s
user    0m16.065s
sys     0m6.688s

cache=volatile

real    0m47.876s
user    0m15.921s
sys     0m6.548s

# mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt -obarrier=0

cache=writeback

real    0m53.588s
user    0m15.901s
sys     0m6.576s

cache=volatile

real    0m48.715s
user    0m16.581s
sys     0m5.856s

I don't see a difference between the results. Apparently the barrier
option doesn't change a thing.


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17 10:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add cache=volatile parameter to -drive Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-05-17 12:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 13:02   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 13:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 13:17       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 13:26         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 14:04           ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2010-05-17 14:22             ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 15:16             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 16:23               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-17 16:26                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 16:28                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 20:07                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-18  7:42                       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 17:59                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-25 18:48                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 19:01                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-26 13:09                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 21:01                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26  1:31                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26  8:43                         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 13:42                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:03                             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 14:08                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:26                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 14:13                               ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26  8:52                         ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26  9:16                           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 13:48                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:12                             ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26 14:19                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 15:40                                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26 16:11                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:27                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-05-26 13:06   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-26 13:50     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 15:13       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-17 15:11 ` Anthony Liguori

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