From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] monitor: Add basic device state visualization
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 09:57:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF8DFF7.5070302@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF82895.6000706@redhat.com>
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Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 05/22/2010 11:18 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> From: Jan Kiszka<jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
>>
>> This introduces device_show, a monitor command that saves the vmstate of
>> a qdev device and visualizes it. QMP is also supported. Buffers are cut
>> after 16 byte by default, but the full content can be requested via
>> '-f'. To pretty-print sub-arrays, vmstate is extended to store the start
>> index name. A new qerror is introduced to signal a missing vmstate. And
>> it comes with documentation.
>>
>> +
>> +Dump a snapshot of the device state. Buffers are cut after 16 bytes
>> unless
>> +a full dump is requested.
>> +
>> +Arguments:
>> +
>> +- "path": the device's qtree path or unique ID (json-string)
>>
>
> This may be ambiguous.
Can your elaborate what precisely is ambiguous?
>
>> +- "full": report full state (json-bool, optional)
>>
>
> Is this needed for QMP? The client can always truncate it to any length.
The effect may not be needed for QMP, but I do need this channel from
the command line to the monitor pretty-printer. I could just stick
"full": json-bool back into the return dict, but that would look somehow
strange IMO.
>
>> +
>> +Schema of returned object:
>> +
>> +{ "device": json-string, "id": json-string, "fields" : [
>> field-objects ] }
>> +
>> +The field object array may be empty, otherwise it consists of
>> +
>> +{ "name": json-string, "size": json-int, "elems": [ element-objects ] }
>> +
>> +"size" describes the real number of bytes required for a binary
>> representation
>> +of a single field element in the array. The actually transfered
>> amount may be
>> +smaller unless a full dump was requested.
>>
>
> This converts the entire qdev tree into an undocumented stable protocol
> (the qdev paths were already in this state I believe). This really
> worries me.
Being primarily a debugging tool, device_show exports the entire
(qdev'ified) vmstates via QMP. Unlike the migration protocol, it does
not provide something like backward compatibility. This would be
overkill for the intended purpose (though someone may find a different
use case one day).
I think we have the following options:
- disable device_show via QMP, limit it to the monitor console
- declare its output inherently unstable, maybe at least adding the
vmstate version to each device so that potential QMP consumers notice
that they may have to update their tools or switch to a different
processing function
Given that vmstate annotations will most probably require some work on
the output structure (and I don't have a QMP use case ATM anyway), I
would be fine with the first option for now. Still, I don't think we
will ever get beyond the second option because this service is tight to
some internals of QEMU we don't want to freeze.
>
>> +
>> +The element object array may be empty, otherwise it can contain
>> +
>> +- json-int objects
>> +- QMP buffer objects
>> +- field objects
>> +- arrays of json-ints, QMP buffers, or field objects
>> +
>> +Example:
>> +
>> +-> { "execute": "device_show", "arguments": { "path": "isa.0/i8042" } }
>> +<- { "return": { "device": "i8042", "id": "", "fields":
>> + [ { "name": "kbd", "size": 4, "elems":
>> + [ { "name": "write_cmd", "size": 1, "elems": [0] },
>> + { "name": "status", "size": 1, "elems": [25] },
>> + { "name": "mode", "size": 1, "elems": [3] },
>> + { "name": "pending", "size": 1, "elems": [1] }
>> + ] }
>> + ]
>> + }
>> + }
>> +
>> +EQMP
>>
>
> Looks good. I am only worried about long term stability and documentation.
>
Thanks,
Jan
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-22 8:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/15] Basic device state visualization Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/15] Add dependency of JSON unit tests on config-host.h Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/15] qdev: Fix scanning across single-bus devices Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 7:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-29 7:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-31 9:45 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/15] qdev: Allow device addressing via 'driver.instance' Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 7:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-29 8:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-31 8:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/15] qdev: Convert device and bus lists to QTAILQ Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/15] qdev: Allow device specification by qtree path for device_del Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/15] qdev: Push QMP mode checks into qbus_list_bus/dev Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/15] monitor: Add completion for qdev paths Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/15] Add base64 encoder/decoder Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 13:59 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-23 7:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-23 8:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-23 10:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/15] QMP: Reserve namespace for complex object classes Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/15] Add QBuffer Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/15] monitor: return length of printed string via monitor_[v]printf Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/15] monitor: Add basic device state visualization Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-05-23 7:57 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2010-05-23 8:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-23 10:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-23 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-29 8:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-29 8:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 8:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-31 8:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-31 8:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-31 11:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-31 11:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 12:51 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-24 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-24 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-24 20:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-24 22:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 22:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 7:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/15] QMP: Teach basic capability negotiation to python example Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/15] QMP: Fix python helper /wrt long return strings Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/15] QMP: Add support for buffer class to qmp python helper Jan Kiszka
2010-05-22 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/15] Basic device state visualization Blue Swirl
2010-05-23 7:55 ` Jan Kiszka
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