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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Christian Brunner <chb@muc.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:05:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFA5D96.3030603@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wrutg4dk.wl%morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>

On 05/24/2010 10:12 AM, MORITA Kazutaka wrote:
> At Sun, 23 May 2010 15:01:59 +0300,
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 05/21/2010 12:29 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>      
>>> I'd be more interested in enabling people to build these types of
>>> storage systems without touching qemu.
>>>
>>> Both sheepdog and ceph ultimately transmit I/O over a socket to a
>>> central daemon, right?
>>>        
>> That incurs an extra copy.
>>
>>      
>>> So could we not standardize a protocol for this that both sheepdog and
>>> ceph could implement?
>>>        
>> The protocol already exists, nbd.  It doesn't support snapshotting etc.
>> but we could extend it.
>>
>>      
> I have no objection to use another protocol for Sheepdog support, but
> I think nbd protocol is unsuitable for the large storage pool with
> many VM images.  It is because nbd protocol doesn't support specifing
> a file name to open.  If we use nbd with such a storage system, the
> server needs to listen ports as many as the number of VM images.  As
> far as I see the protocol, It looks difficult to extend it without
> breaking backward compatibility.
>    

The server would be local and talk over a unix domain socket, perhaps 
anonymous.

nbd has other issues though, such as requiring a copy and no support for 
metadata operations such as snapshot and file size extension.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-24 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19 19:22 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 20:31 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-20 21:18   ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 21:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-20 22:16       ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-21  5:28         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-21  6:13           ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-21  5:54         ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-23 12:01       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24  7:12         ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:05           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-05-24 11:42             ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:56               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 12:07                 ` Cláudio Martins
2010-05-24 14:01                 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 19:07                   ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-24 19:38                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25  9:14                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:17                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:25                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:29                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:54                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:57                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:02                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26  8:44                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:01                             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 16:21                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 17:12                                 ` Sage Weil
2010-05-26  5:24                                   ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-26  8:46                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:16                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25  9:19                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:26                   ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24  8:27         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-24 11:03           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:19             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25  9:22               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 11:02         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 11:25           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 12:03             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-25 12:13               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:25             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:31               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:38                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:05                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:01                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:16                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:21                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:27                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:53               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 13:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:03                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:02                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:09                   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 15:01                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-20 23:02   ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-23  7:59     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24  2:17       ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-25 20:13         ` Blue Swirl

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