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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:31:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFB6EAA.40803@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100525060715.GN22163@redhat.com>

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Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:13:40PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
>>
>> This allows to communicate potential IRQ coalescing during delivery from
>> the sink back to the source. Targets that support IRQ coalescing
>> workarounds need to register handlers that return the appropriate
>> QEMU_IRQ_* code, and they have to propergate the code across all IRQ
>> redirections. If the IRQ source receives a QEMU_IRQ_COALESCED, it can
>> apply its workaround. If multiple sinks exist, the source may only
>> consider an IRQ coalesced if all other sinks either report
>> QEMU_IRQ_COALESCED as well or QEMU_IRQ_MASKED.
>>
> Well, almost two years passed since this approach was proposed first
> time[1] ;). Back then it generated bunch of nonsensical comments about
> real hardware not working this way, so the hack that we have now was
> introduce to overcome this resistance. I hope enough time passed for
> people to gain some sense and the approach will be adopted this time.
> Really this should have been done two year ago.
> 
> [1] http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2008-06/msg00757.html

Yeah, I somehow had a vague feeling that there must have been an earlier
attempt. I think my approach could be a slightly easier to accept as it
does not require converting all platforms, but this can happen on demand
(or not at all). Moreover, I think that the third return state,
QEMU_IRQ_MASKED, is important for correct handling of multiple IRQ sinks.

However, as I would see it now, we just have two options long term:
 - drop IRQ coalescing workarounds
 - properly support them via qemu_irq

The current hack cannot stay. E.g., it does not scale because it depends
on a global variable of the APIC. So we would never able to protect the
APICs with individual locks.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-25  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-24 20:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 01/15] hpet: Catch out-of-bounds timer access Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:34   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:36     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:50       ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 02/15] hpet: Coding style cleanups and some refactorings Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 03/15] hpet: Silence warning on write to running main counter Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 04/15] hpet: Move static timer field initialization Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 05/15] hpet: Convert to qdev Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  9:37   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:14     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 06/15] hpet: Start/stop timer when HPET_TN_ENABLE is modified Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  6:07   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25  6:31     ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2010-05-25  6:40       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-25  6:54         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 19:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-05-25 20:16     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 21:44       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26  8:08         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 20:14           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27  5:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:55         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 20:09           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 20:35             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-26 22:35               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-26 23:26               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27 17:56                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 18:31                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 18:53                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 19:08                       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-27 19:19                         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:19                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-28 19:00                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:00                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27 22:21                           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-28 19:10                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-27 22:21                   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-27  6:13               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-27 18:37                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28  7:31                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-28 20:06                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-28 20:47                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29  7:58                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29  9:35                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:45                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:04                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:16                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 10:26                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 10:38                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:46                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:13                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:37                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 21:21                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30  6:02                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:10                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 12:24                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:58                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31  7:46                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-30 12:33                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:56                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 13:49                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 16:54                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 19:37                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 20:07                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 20:21                                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-31  5:19                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-01 18:00                                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-01 18:30                                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-02 19:05                                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-03  6:23                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03  6:34                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03  6:59                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-03  7:03                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-03  7:06                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-04 19:05                                                                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05  0:04                                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05  7:20                                                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05  8:27                                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-05  9:23                                                                               ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-05 12:14                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  7:15                                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  7:39                                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  7:49                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  8:07                                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06  9:23                                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06 10:10                                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-06 10:27                                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-06-06  7:39                                                                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-06  8:07                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 13:22                                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:15                         ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29  9:36                           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-29 14:38                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 16:03                             ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-29 16:32                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-29 20:52                                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30  5:41                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 11:41                                     ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-30 11:52                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-30 12:05                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-27  5:58             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-26 19:49       ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 08/15] x86: Refactor RTC IRQ coalescing workaround Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 09/15] hpet/rtc: Rework RTC IRQ replacement by HPET Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25  9:29   ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 10:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:05       ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 11:23           ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 11:26             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-25 12:03               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-25 12:39                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 10/15] hpet: Drop static state Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 11/15] hpet: Add support for level-triggered interrupts Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 12/15] vmstate: Add VMSTATE_STRUCT_VARRAY_UINT8 Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 13/15] hpet: Make number of timers configurable Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 14/15] hpet: Add MSI support Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 15/15] monitor/QMP: Drop info hpet / query-hpet Jan Kiszka
2010-05-24 22:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 00/15] HPET cleanups, fixes, enhancements Anthony Liguori

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