From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Christian Brunner <chb@muc.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:01:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFBD82F.3020404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFBD6CD.3000503@codemonkey.ws>
On 05/25/2010 04:55 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/25/2010 08:38 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 05/25/2010 04:35 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 05/25/2010 08:31 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>> A protocol based mechanism has the advantage of being more robust
>>>>> in the face of poorly written block backends so if it's possible
>>>>> to make it perform as well as a plugin, it's a preferable approach.
>>>>
>>>> May be hard due to difficulty of exposing guest memory.
>>>
>>> If someone did a series to add plugins, I would expect a very strong
>>> argument as to why a shared memory mechanism was not possible or at
>>> least plausible.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I understand why shared memory is such a bad thing wrt
>>> KVM. Can you elaborate? Is it simply a matter of fork()?
>>
>> fork() doesn't work in the with of memory hotplug. What else is there?
>>
>
> Is it that fork() doesn't work or is it that fork() is very expensive?
It doesn't work, fork() is done at block device creation time, which
freezes the child memory map, while guest memory is allocated at hotplug
time.
fork() actually isn't very expensive since we use MADV_DONTFORK
(probably fast enough for everything except realtime).
It may be possible to do a processfd() which can be mmap()ed by another
process to export anonymous memory using mmu notifiers, not sure how
easy or mergeable that is.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 19:22 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/1] ceph/rbd block driver for qemu-kvm Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 20:31 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-20 21:18 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-20 21:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-20 22:16 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-21 5:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-21 6:13 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-21 5:54 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 7:12 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 11:42 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 11:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 12:07 ` Cláudio Martins
2010-05-24 14:01 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 19:07 ` Christian Brunner
2010-05-24 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 8:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 17:12 ` Sage Weil
2010-05-26 5:24 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-26 8:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 9:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:26 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2010-05-24 8:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-24 11:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-24 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 11:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-25 12:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:01 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-05-25 14:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 15:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 13:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 14:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-20 23:02 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-23 7:59 ` Blue Swirl
2010-05-24 2:17 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-05-25 20:13 ` Blue Swirl
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