From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] QMP: Introduce MIGRATION events
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:10:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFBF66F.3030702@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ljb8ge84.fsf@trasno.mitica>
On 05/25/2010 11:04 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>
>> On 05/25/2010 10:35 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
>>
>
>>> problem here is that libvirt start target with -S, and waits to do the
>>> "cont" as soon as possible. As of know, only way to do it is to poll
>>> info migrate on source faster.
>>>
>>>
>> Why does it do that??
>>
>> That sound like a terrible idea.
>>
> Becaues migration is not reliable, and they don't have a way to issue
> cont only in one of the sides :(
>
I don't know what you mean by reliable.
When the migration completes on the destination, it will start
automatically.
The source will not start unless explicitly invoked. If you
successfully cancel a migration on the source, it's guaranteed that it
won't start on the destination. So the sequence looks like:
src) // decide we want to give up migration
src) migrate_cancel
src) // check migration status
src) cont // if migration cancelled
src) //if migration succeeded, check destination for completion
dst) // if not responsive and not completed in appropriate amount of
time, kill guest
src) cont // if killed destination
I don't see what the problem is.
> We make migration protocol reliable, or management application have to
> decide when migration suceeded or not.
>
Reliability has nothing to do with the protocol and everything to do
with the presence of the third node.
> This new events help then a lot. But they issue the cont really fast
> (before migration ends). I don't remember why they did that.
>
If libvirt is launching the destination with -S, it's doing the wrong
thing and we ought make sure the proper fix gets implemented.
> danp?
>
>
>>>> There should be some information about why it failed, no? Preferrably
>>>> in a QError format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> At this point, we have basically -1 :(
>>>
>>> I can add a field with an error number, but we are very bad at the
>>> moment about moving errno's upstack.
>>>
>>>
>> We need a better solution for reporting errors via notifications.
>>
> Suggestions?
>
> Notice that what we need now is a way to know if migration ended with
> success or in any other way, as soon as possible.
>
Markus/Luiz?
>>>> I think this makes more sense as a MIGRATION_CONNECTED event. It
>>>> probably should carry peer information too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What kind of peer information?
>>>
>>> We have tcp/fd/exec/unix migrations. calling it CONNECTED vs STARTED, I
>>> don't care. But adding information? Notice that the management
>>> application knows what it did, I can put the:
>>>
>>> "exec: gzip -d< /tmp/foo"
>>>
>>> string, but not much more that I can put here.
>>>
>>>
>> Basically, do we have any useful information in info migrate that we
>> can include?
>>
> (qemu) info migrate
> Migration status: active
> transferred ram: 874808 kbytes
> remaining ram: 227912 kbytes
> total ram: 1065344 kbytes
> (qemu)
>
> I can't see anything interesting to put here :(
>
Ugh.
> About the CONNECTED/STARTED distintion, I fully agree with danp. We
> just want STARTED event for migration, CONNECTION should be generated
> (or not) for all sockets/char devices. it don't make sense for fd/exec
> for instance.
>
That makes sense to me.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Later, Juan.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 16:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-25 14:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/5] Add QMP migration events Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] Exit if incoming migration fails Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 18:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-25 18:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 18:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] Factorize common migration incoming code Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] QMP: Introduce MIGRATION events Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 15:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 15:52 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-25 15:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:04 ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 16:10 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-05-25 18:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-25 16:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-25 16:04 ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 16:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-25 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 16:43 ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-26 10:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-26 14:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 15:15 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-26 16:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-27 13:48 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-27 15:58 ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-27 16:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-27 16:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 10:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-25 18:21 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-25 18:38 ` Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-05-25 18:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-25 18:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 13:14 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-25 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] QMP: Emit migration events on incoming migration Juan Quintela
2010-05-25 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] QMP: Emit migration events on outgoing migration Juan Quintela
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-24 8:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] Add QMP migration events Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 8:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] QMP: Introduce MIGRATION events Juan Quintela
2010-05-24 9:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
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