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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: RFC: blockdev_add & friends, brief rationale, QMP docs
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 14:23:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C039C2F.1070106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3typo4a07.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 05/31/2010 01:54 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
>> We expose some of the cache property to the guest.  IMO we need the
>> cache property to be both guest and host, with qemu bridging the
>> impedance mismatch if needed.
>>      
> Yes.
>
> How should the device properties look like?
>    

write_cache=enabled|disabled|none? (disabled can be enabled by the 
guest, but none cannot)
barrier=supported|unsupported?

Need to look at our supported interfaces and see what's the LCM.

>>> rerror, werror                      host, guest drivers will reject
>>>                                         values they don't support
>>>
>>>        
>> Did you mean 'block format drivers will reject'?
>>      
> No.  Actual implementation is in the guest drivers,
> e.g. ide_handle_rw_error().
>    

That is not a guest driver.  It is a device model.  A guest driver is 
something you modprobe.

> I see this as the host outsourcing the actual work to guest drivers.
> Guest drivers that can't do the work should complain.  Right now, they
> silently ignore the order.
>    

With the terminology change, it makes a bit of sense.

>
>> Maybe we want an explicit blockdev_eject instead, not sure.
>>      
> Either blockdev_change (can eject, insert with auto-eject) or completely
> orthogonal blockdev_eject (can only eject) + blockdev_insert (can only
> insert, no auto-eject), I'd say.
>    

I prefer the latter, especially as eject has numerous variants (software 
locked eject button, force=true to unwrap paper clip and insert into 
pinhole, tray ejects violently knocking down hot beverage, etc).

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-31 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-28 18:21 [Qemu-devel] RFC: blockdev_add & friends, brief rationale, QMP docs Markus Armbruster
2010-05-28 19:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-05-28 19:17   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-28 19:24     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-30  9:11       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 11:05         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-31 13:48           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-05-31 14:04             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-30  9:09 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 10:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-05-31 11:23     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-05-31 11:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-04 14:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-04 14:32   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-06-04 15:53     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-04 16:20       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-06-06  8:23   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-08  9:41     ` Markus Armbruster

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