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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/22] Refactor machine support
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:23:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0E7C95.9010204@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C0E6894.9000901@redhat.com>


> One "smart way to implement default devices" could be an inclusion 
> mechanism where a machine can ask qemu to read other config files.  
> Then you'd have config files for the default serial/parallel/etc.  
> This could also be implemented on top of choices 2/3/4 though.

Defaults are tough because there are multiple ways to create devices 
today.  Here's something that could potentially address the problem.  
I'll focus on -serial but it's equally applicable to the other default 
devices.

We would introduce serial0, serial1, serial2, serial3 MachineCore 
properties.  These properties would be chardev names.

The pc machine types would do:
    QOPT_VALUE("serial0", "__default_serial0");

In vl.c, we would always create a __default_serial0 chardev of 'vc'.

The -serial option would keep a counter and:

   -serial mon:stdio -serial vc

Would be equivalent to:

  -chardev mon:stdio,id=__serial0 -machine serial0=__serial0 \
  -chardev vc,id=__serial1 -machine serial1=__serial1

-nodefaults simply suppresses the creation of the default serial devices.

It's the job of the MachineCore to try to find each of the serialN 
properties and if the chardevs have been created, use qdev to create an 
appropriate serial port device.

This would apply equally well to parallel and virtcon.

Networking is a bit of a nightmare as many boards simply ignore the 
networking options.  Floppy and cdrom can work in this way too.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-07 23:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/22] Refactor machine support Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] QemuOpts: fix a bug in QemuOpts when setting an option twice Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  7:51   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 10:32     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-08 13:07       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 13:44         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 15:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 15:37             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 16:04               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09  7:01                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 14:38         ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 15:14           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] QemuOpts: make qemu_opts_validate() store the description list for later use Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] QemuOpts: add function to set QemuOpts from defaults Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] machine: package all init arguments into a QemuOpts (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] machine: pass all init options as a single QemuOpts Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  7:58   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] Make -acpi-enable a machine specific option Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] machine: introduce -machine option Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] machine: implement -kernel/-append/-initrd options in term of -machine Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] machine: implement -m in terms " Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] machine: allow boards to specify default values and use it in isapc Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  8:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-08 13:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 13:29       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-07 23:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] machine: replace compat_props with opts_default Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] machine: some sugary macros to simplify machine default options Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] machine: get rid of global default QEMUMachine members Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] machine: replace QEMUMachine.use_scsi with -machine default_drive Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] machine: make max_cpus a -machine option Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  1:01   ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08  1:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  2:56       ` Paul Brook
2010-06-09  7:44       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-09  7:47   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] machine: move default machine out of machine definitions Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] machine: kill machine->alias Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] machine: final conversion to pure QemuOpts Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] machine: introduce accel option to allow selection of kvm or tcg Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] machine: introduce machine core and split qemu_register_machine Anthony Liguori
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] machine: convert pc machines to split core vs machine API Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09  7:51   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-07 23:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] machine: introduce -machine-def option to define a machine via config Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08  0:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-10 17:48     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-06-11 13:03       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-06-08  3:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/22] Refactor machine support Paul Brook
2010-06-08 10:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-08 14:30     ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 15:28       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 15:36         ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 15:58           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-08 16:15             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 21:05               ` Alexander Graf
2010-06-08 21:16                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-08 17:23             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-06-09  2:11             ` Paul Brook
2010-06-09 13:55               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09 14:30                 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-09 20:47                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-09 20:52                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-09 21:09                       ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-09 22:26                       ` Paul Brook
2010-06-08 14:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
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2010-06-08 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini

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