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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [Bug 599958] Re: Timedrift problems with Win7: hpet missing time drift fixups
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:28:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C31DE17.9090802@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C31CED1.70704@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 07/05/2010 03:16 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> It's also architecturally cleaner.  Masks and acks are architectural
>>> events.  Injections are not - there's the edge on the LINT0 or INTI2
>>> pins, generation of an APIC message, receipt of the APIC message, and
>>> assertion of the APIC-to-core interrupt interface.  I'm not sure how the
>>> proposed interface maps to that.
>>>      
>> Our emulation does not reflect every architectural detail of the
>> delivery path anyway.
> 
> Usually, when that happens, we get an obscure bug.
> 
> So if we add a facility, especially across the user/kernel boundary, 
> it's better to have it conform to the architecture.  That reduces the 
> chance it has a serious hidden bug.

Neither ack/mask notifiers (past the IRQ controller) nor injection
return values are part of any architecture we emulate. What is driving
us are the requirements of the de-coalescing workarounds we want to
build on top and the impact on existing design.

> 
>> The abstraction is always an IRQ line which can be
>> high or low (sometimes it is only high, but this is a bug).
>>    
> 
> That's a bug in the use of qemu_irq, not qemu_irq itself.
> 
> But qemu_irq needs to remember its state, otherwise when an irq 
> controller unmasks a level-triggered line, it won't see the interrupt.

I think it's currently the IRQ controller's job to keep track of the
line state during masked periods. Moving this to qemu_irq is definitely
better but requires some care (e.g. when vmstates are involved).

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-05 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-29 21:18 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 599958] [NEW] Timedrift problems with Win7 + qemu-kvm Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-06-29 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 599958] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-06-29 21:18 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-06-29 21:19 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-06-29 21:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-29 21:53 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-06-30 14:17 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-06-30 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 599958] Re: Timedrift problems with Win7: hpet missing time drift fixups Anthony Liguori
2010-07-01  7:13   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-07-01  8:19     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-01 15:45       ` Paul Brook
2010-07-01 18:50         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-01 21:40           ` Paul Brook
2010-07-03  7:39             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-03  7:49               ` Blue Swirl
2010-07-03  7:55                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-04 22:06                   ` Paul Brook
2010-07-05  6:39                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05  6:42                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-05  6:49                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05  7:00                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-05  7:36                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05  8:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-05  9:07                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05  9:09                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-05  9:23                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-05 11:13                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05 11:40                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-05 12:16                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05 12:20                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-05 13:24                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05 13:42                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-05 13:44                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-05 12:23                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-05 13:28                                             ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2010-07-05 13:47                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-05 17:12                                                 ` Blue Swirl
2010-07-05 17:32                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-07-05 17:45                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-01 18:42     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-30 15:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2013-10-01  9:34 ` Ben A
2013-10-01 15:56   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-01 16:23     ` Ben "Root" Anderson
2013-10-01 16:33       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-01 16:36         ` Ben "Root" Anderson
2013-10-01 16:47           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-01  9:35 ` Ben A
2014-06-15 23:31 ` AndCycle
2019-05-22  7:27 ` Thomas Huth
2019-05-24 14:58 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2019-07-24  4:17 ` Launchpad Bug Tracker

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