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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC PATCH 4/7] ide: IOMMU support
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:42:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C3F0242.90005@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201007151133.14493.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 07/15/2010 05:33 AM, Paul Brook wrote:
>>> Depending how the we decide to handle IOMMU invalidation, it may also be
>>> necessary to augment the memory_map API to allow the system to request a
>>> mapping be revoked.  However this issue is not specific to the IOMMU
>>> implementation. Such bugs are already present on any system that allows
>>> dynamic reconfiguration of the address space, e.g. by changing PCI BARs.
>>>        
>> That's why the memory_map API today does not allow mappings to persist
>> after trips back to the main loop.
>>      
> Sure it does.  If you can't combine zero-copy memory access with asynchronous
> IO then IMO it's fairly useless. See e.g. dma-helpers.c
>    

DMA's a very special case.  DMA is performed asynchronously to the 
execution of the CPU so you generally can't make any guarantees about 
what state the transaction is in until it's completed.  That gives us a 
fair bit of wiggle room when dealing with a DMA operation to a region of 
physical memory where the physical memory mapping is altered in some way 
during the transaction.

However, that is not true in the general case.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Paul
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-15 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-14  5:45 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] AMD IOMMU emulation patchset Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/7] Generic IOMMU layer Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  6:07   ` malc
2010-07-14 22:47     ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/7] AMD IOMMU emulation Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14 20:16   ` Paul Brook
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/7] pci: call IOMMU hooks Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  7:37   ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-07-14 22:50     ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/7] ide: IOMMU support Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14 13:53   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2010-07-14 18:33     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-14 20:13       ` Paul Brook
2010-07-14 21:29         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-14 22:24           ` Chris Wright
2010-07-15 10:28             ` Paul Brook
2010-07-15 16:52               ` Chris Wright
2010-07-15 17:02                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-15 17:17                   ` Chris Wright
2010-07-15 17:22                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-15 17:25                       ` Chris Wright
2010-07-15 17:27                     ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-15 17:22                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-15 17:14                 ` Chris Wright
2010-07-15  9:10           ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-15 12:45             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 14:45               ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-15 16:45               ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-15 17:42                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 10:33           ` Paul Brook
2010-07-15 12:42             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-07-15 14:02               ` Paul Brook
2010-07-14 23:39         ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-15  9:22         ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-15 10:49           ` Paul Brook
2010-07-15 14:59             ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-14 23:11     ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-15 10:58       ` Paul Brook
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/7] rtl8139: " Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 6/7] eepro100: " Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 7/7] ac97: " Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2010-07-14  6:09   ` malc

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