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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Make default invocation of block drivers safer
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:16:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C3F0A3B.2010703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C3F05AA.3050106@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Am 15.07.2010 14:57, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 07/15/2010 04:10 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> I think there are actually two issues here:
>>
>> 1. Confusing QEMU so it sees an image with a different format than expected.
>>
>> This is important because it's unexpected behavior for a user who puts
>> a QCOW2 image onto a raw disk to find the disk itself turn into a
>> QCOW2 disk on next reboot.
>>
>> I also worry about this bug because it means that in a scenario where
>> format= is not explicitly given, the VM can change its disk image
>> format.  This is a problem because the host administrator might have
>> used raw files and be unhappy to find that the user is able to exploit
>> a (hypothetical) security issue in the vmdk code despite having
>> created the VM with a raw image.
>>    
> 
> One of the nasty things in QEMU right now is that we have absolutely no 
> way to persist information about the guest and we have no persistent 
> definition of the guest.
> 
> All of our VMs are basically stateless across invocations and that 
> really makes things like this difficult.

On the one hand, yes, it can be nasty in some situations. But on the
other hand, when I first used qemu back in 0.6.0 times or so, what
really impressed me was how easy it was to use. No long config files to
create or anything, "qemu -hda my_image" (and maybe one or two other
options) and it just worked. We should try not to lose too much of this
ease of use.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-15 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-14 16:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Make default invocation of block drivers safer Anthony Liguori
2010-07-14 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-07-14 17:40   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15  8:00     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-14 18:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-14 18:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15  9:20     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-15 12:35       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 15:19     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-15 16:20       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 17:10         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-15 17:51           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-16  7:30             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-16 12:55         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-07-16 13:00           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-07-16 16:06         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-16 16:16           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-16 16:24             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-14 18:53   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-14 18:54   ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-07-14 19:04     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15  8:09   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-15  9:10     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-07-15 12:57       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 13:16         ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-07-15 13:20         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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