From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Make default invocation of block drivers safer
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:16:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C3F0A3B.2010703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C3F05AA.3050106@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Am 15.07.2010 14:57, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 07/15/2010 04:10 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> I think there are actually two issues here:
>>
>> 1. Confusing QEMU so it sees an image with a different format than expected.
>>
>> This is important because it's unexpected behavior for a user who puts
>> a QCOW2 image onto a raw disk to find the disk itself turn into a
>> QCOW2 disk on next reboot.
>>
>> I also worry about this bug because it means that in a scenario where
>> format= is not explicitly given, the VM can change its disk image
>> format. This is a problem because the host administrator might have
>> used raw files and be unhappy to find that the user is able to exploit
>> a (hypothetical) security issue in the vmdk code despite having
>> created the VM with a raw image.
>>
>
> One of the nasty things in QEMU right now is that we have absolutely no
> way to persist information about the guest and we have no persistent
> definition of the guest.
>
> All of our VMs are basically stateless across invocations and that
> really makes things like this difficult.
On the one hand, yes, it can be nasty in some situations. But on the
other hand, when I first used qemu back in 0.6.0 times or so, what
really impressed me was how easy it was to use. No long config files to
create or anything, "qemu -hda my_image" (and maybe one or two other
options) and it just worked. We should try not to lose too much of this
ease of use.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-15 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-14 16:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Make default invocation of block drivers safer Anthony Liguori
2010-07-14 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-07-14 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 8:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-14 18:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-14 18:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 9:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-15 12:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 15:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-15 16:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 17:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-15 17:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-16 7:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-16 12:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-07-16 13:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-07-16 16:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-16 16:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-16 16:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-14 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-14 18:54 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-07-14 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 8:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-15 9:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-07-15 12:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-15 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-07-15 13:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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