From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Bruce Rogers <brogers@novell.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] move 'unsafe' to end of caching modes in help
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:24:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C4DE0F7.5010305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4DDC16.2000603@codemonkey.ws>
On 07/26/2010 10:03 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 07/26/2010 11:29 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 07/26/2010 07:26 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>
>>>> The help output is *not* a supported interface.
>>>
>>> There is no supported, usable interface for this.
>>
>> Well actually, libvirt could probe this by starting qemu with cache=x
>> for various x and seeing if it breaks. But the milk has already been
>> spilled.
>
> So we're stuck with supporting the help output as an interface
> forever? Even with a capabilities system, what about old versions of
> libvirt?
No, the rate of crap generation seems to increase all the time, we have
to get rid of it eventually. If we provide a replacement, give a
warning, wait some months for libvirt^Wusers to catch up, and throw away
the deprecated feature, we can remove any feature we like. This is
still a fast moving field and users to upgrade. Just not every week.
>
> At some point in time, old versions of libvirt are going to stop
> working with new versions of QEMU because the help output changes. If
> libvirt switches to something more reliable (like versioning), then
> the gap is closed until there is a capabilities system.
>
> There will be a breakage though and we shouldn't pretend that taking
> this patch does anything other than delay that breakage.
There's a difference between
- planned breakage with a warning ahead of time
- unplanned breakage
- unplanned breakage with unwillingness to fix
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-26 19:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-21 20:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] move 'unsafe' to end of caching modes in help Bruce Rogers
2010-07-21 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-21 21:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-21 21:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-21 21:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-21 23:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-22 0:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-07-22 6:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-22 8:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-22 14:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-23 8:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-26 15:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 16:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-26 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-26 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 19:24 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-07-26 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-07-26 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 16:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-26 18:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 19:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-26 19:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-26 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-26 20:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 8:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-07-27 9:47 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-07-27 12:30 ` Cole Robinson
2010-07-27 12:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-27 13:35 ` Cole Robinson
2010-07-27 8:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-03 9:43 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-27 8:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-22 13:45 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-07-27 10:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-07-27 13:11 ` Bruce Rogers
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