From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Drop braces around single statement rule
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:41:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C56E732.7060102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C56E253.7010403@codemonkey.ws>
Am 02.08.2010 17:20, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 07/31/2010 06:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 08:23:55PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:23 PM, malc<av1474@comtv.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>>> History has shown that this particular rule is unenforcable.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: malc<av1474@comtv.ru>
>>>> ---
>>>> CODING_STYLE | 11 ++++++-----
>>>> 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>> Not again:
>>> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2009-12/msg00484.html
>>>
>>> There are plenty of ways to make the rule enforceable, for example we
>>> could agree to start to revert commits which introduce new
>>> CODING_STYLE violations.
>>>
>>>
>> It seems to be possible to add a pre-applypatch script to the git hook
>> directory, that will verify the commit and reject it if it doesn't
>> comply with the coding rules. Of course it's possible to commit a patch
>> anyway by using --no-verify.
>>
>
> There are certain aspects of CODING_STYLE that I think are pretty
> important. For instance, space vs. tabs can really screw things up for
> people that have non-standard tabs. This is something that enforcing at
> patch submission time seems to be really important.
>
> Type naming seems important too because it's often not isolated. IOW, a
> poor choice in one file can end up polluting other files quickly that
> require interacting. The result is a mess of naming styles.
>
> But something like braces around an if doesn't seem like it creates a
> big problem. Most C programmers are used to seeing braces in some
> statements and not other. Therefore, it's hard to argue that the code
> gets really unreadable if this isn't strictly enforced.
I won't argue that missing braces impact readability of the code, they
probably don't. However, as was pointed out in earlier discussion there
still remain two important points:
1. While it doesn't make a difference for the code itself, readability
of patches suffers when braces have to be added/removed when a second
line is inserted or disappears.
2. I've messed up more than once with adding some debug code (even worse
when it happens with real code):
if (foo)
fprintf(stderr, "debug msg\n");
bar(); /* oops, not conditional any more */
This is why I tend to disagree with removing the rule, and suggest to
rather implement some automatic checks like Aurelien suggested (if we
need to change anything at all). I usually don't ask for a respin just
for braces if the patch is good otherwise, but if you think we should
just reject such patches without exceptions, I can change that.
> So really, I think the problem is that we're enforcing the words of
> CODING_STYLE instead of the intent. The intent of CODING_STYLE is to
> improve the readability of the code. I think it requires a certain
> amount of taste to be applied.
>
> Rejecting a big patch because braces aren't used in single line if
> statements seems to be an unnecessary barrier to me.
Taking such patches anyway is basically what we're doing today, right?
And what malc is complaining about.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-02 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-31 16:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Drop braces around single statement rule malc
2010-07-31 16:47 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-07-31 16:51 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-07-31 20:23 ` Blue Swirl
2010-07-31 20:35 ` malc
2010-07-31 23:49 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-08-02 15:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 15:41 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-08-02 15:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 16:06 ` malc
2010-08-02 16:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 16:29 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-02 16:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 15:55 ` malc
2010-08-02 16:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 16:24 ` Blue Swirl
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