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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Anyone seeing huge slowdown launching qemu with Linux 2.6.35?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:47:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C586452.90603@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C58635B.7020407@redhat.com>

  On 08/03/2010 09:43 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Really, the bar on new interfaces (both to guest and host) should be 
> high, much higher than it is now.  Interfaces should be well 
> documented, future proof, migration safe, and orthogonal to existing 
> interfaces.  While the first three points could be improved with some 
> effort, adding a new dma interface is not going to be orthogonal to 
> virtio.  And frankly, libguestfs is better off switching to one of the 
> other interfaces.  Slurping huge initrds isn't the right way to do this.

btw, precedent should play no role here.  Just because an older 
interfaces wasn't documented or migration safe or unit-tested doesn't 
mean new ones get off the hook.

It does help to have a framework in place that we can point people at, 
for example I added a skeleton Documentation/kvm/api.txt and some unit 
tests and then made contributors fill them in for new features.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-03 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-03 11:13 [Qemu-devel] Anyone seeing huge slowdown launching qemu with Linux 2.6.35? Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 11:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 12:10   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 12:37     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 12:48       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 13:19         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 14:05           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 14:38             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 14:53               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 16:10                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:28                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 16:44                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:46                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 16:50                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:53                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 17:01                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 17:42                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 17:58                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 18:11                                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 18:26                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 18:43                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 18:47                                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-08-03 18:55                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:00                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:05                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 19:09                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:15                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:24                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:38                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:41                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:47                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04  5:47                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 21:24                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-03 21:20                                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-04  5:53                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  7:56                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-04  8:17                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  8:43                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04  9:22                                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-04 13:04                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 13:07                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 13:15                                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 13:24                                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 13:26                                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:22                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 14:38                                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:50                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 15:01                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 15:07                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 15:15                                                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 22:41                                                                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-08-04 16:26                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 13:34                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 13:52                                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 14:00                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:14                                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 14:36                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:22                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 14:39                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:33                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:30                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:36                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:44                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:52                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:37                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05  7:28                                                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-05  7:34                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05  7:56                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-05  7:59                                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05  8:45                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-05  8:48                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05 13:43                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:45                                                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 16:54                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:01                                                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:14                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:27                                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:34                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 20:06                                                                               ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-04 20:16                                                                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-05  2:38                                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:26                                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 17:31                                                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:35                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:36                                                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 17:36                                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:46                                                                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 17:50                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 18:13                                                                     ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 18:16                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 18:18                                                                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 18:19                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 18:18                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:42                                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 13:22                                                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 13:29                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 16:25                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 22:06                                             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04  5:54                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  9:24                                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04  9:27                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04  9:52                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 11:33                                                     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 11:36                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 12:07                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 12:59                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:26                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 19:13                                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 19:17                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 19:19                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:22                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 20:00                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 20:49                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 21:13                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-03 21:34                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04  7:57                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04  8:19                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 12:53                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:44                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:46                                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:48                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 16:49                                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:51                                                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:01                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 17:19                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:25                                                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:27                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 17:37                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:53                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 18:05                                                                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04  5:56                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  1:17                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-08-04  8:21                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 14:51                                       ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-04 14:57                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 15:25                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 15:31                                             ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 15:48                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 15:59                                                 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 16:08                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 16:48                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 23:17                                             ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-08-05  5:26                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 16:56                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 16:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 17:00                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 17:05                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:56                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 17:08                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:39                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 16:43                   ` Richard W.M. Jones

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