From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:51:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C695070.5010405@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C694D64.8040402@codemonkey.ws>
Am 16.08.2010 16:38, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 08/16/2010 09:13 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 16.08.2010 16:04, schrieb Stefano Stabellini:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 12.08.2010 16:09, schrieb stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Anthony PERARD<anthony.perard@citrix.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Add the Xen FV (Fully Virtualized) machine to Qemu;
>>>>> this is groundwork to add Xen device model support in Qemu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Anthony PERARD<anthony.perard@citrix.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
>>>>>
>>>> Why does this need its own machine type? Shouldn't an HVM machine really
>>>> look like a PC? And indeed most of this code looks like a (slightly
>>>> outdated) copy of pc_piix.c with !pci_enabled code paths removed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The main reason is that we need some xen specific initializations, as you can
>>> see from xen_init_fv.
>>>
>> Right, there are some more Xen specific things added later. However, the
>> main part of it is duplicated from pc_piix.c. I'm sure that with some
>> refactoring we could call these functions instead of copying and
>> modifying them. The problem with the latter is that they will inevitably
>> diverge even for changes that make sense for both.
>>
>> I'm not even sure that the machine is the right place to do these Xen
>> specific initializations (expect for the Xen platform PCI device). As
>> far as I understand, the QEMUMachine is considered guest state whereas
>> most of these initializations concern host state.
>>
>
> To be honest, I think we'll need KVM, Xen, and QEMU specific machines.
>
> The right default set of hardware for all three is different.
Right, I agree. This is why I put the exception for the platform device.
There are probably some more devices for which the same applies.
But these exceptions all about guest state. If qdev was finished, this
would be a matter of having a different configuration file, right?
This series, as I understand it, is adding much more to the Xen FV
machine. Things that are not about which devices a VM contains, but
about some implementation details of the host.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-16 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-12 14:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] RFC xen device model support Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] xen: Update libxc calls stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 14:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-12 14:28 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-12 14:29 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-18 9:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-18 11:47 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv stefano.stabellini
2010-08-16 13:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-16 14:04 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-16 14:13 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-16 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-16 14:51 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-08-16 15:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-16 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] xen: Add a new target to qemu: target-xen stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 18:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 12:47 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson
2010-08-13 17:35 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-13 17:46 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 18:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] xen: xen_machine_fv, initialize xenstore stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] xen: add a 8259 Interrupt Controller stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] xen: Add the Xen platform pci device stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 18:26 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 13:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] xen: handle xenstore events stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] xen: Read and write the state of the VM in xenstore stefano.stabellini
2010-08-13 18:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-15 14:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-16 11:15 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-16 12:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-16 12:59 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] xen: Initialize event channels and io rings stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 18:42 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-13 18:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] xen: Introduce the Xen mapcache stefano.stabellini
2010-08-13 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] piix3: introduce register_set_irq and register_map_irq stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 18:44 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] piix_pci: introduce a write_config notifier stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 18:35 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-09-05 7:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-08-12 14:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] vl.c: Introduce getter for shutdown_requested and reset_requested stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 14:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] xen: destroy the VM when shutdown is requested stefano.stabellini
2010-08-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-12 14:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] xen: Add a Xen specific ACPI Implementation to target-xen stefano.stabellini
2010-08-12 18:46 ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-13 18:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-13 19:37 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-13 20:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-16 11:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-13 19:09 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/15] RFC xen device model support Anthony Liguori
2010-08-13 19:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-13 20:48 ` Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-23 9:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] v2: " Stefano Stabellini
2010-08-23 9:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv stefano.stabellini
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