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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: avi@redhat.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, hch@lst.de
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:40:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C73AFBA.6000002@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYQHv15jprqpa8ubTQMR=bnisDB4SposC07tZw@mail.gmail.com>

Am 24.08.2010 13:02, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>> This reverts commit 8b3b720620a1137a1b794fc3ed64734236f94e06.
>>
>> This fix has caused severe slowdowns on recent kernels that actually do flush
>> when they are told so. Reverting this patch hurts correctness and means that we
>> could get corrupted images in case of a host crash. This means that qcow2 might
>> not be an option for some people without this fix. On the other hand, I get
>> reports that the slowdown is so massive that not reverting it would mean that
>> people can't use it either because it just takes ages to complete stuff. It
>> probably can be fixed, but not in time for 0.13.0.
>>
>> Usually, if there's a possible tradeoff between correctness and performance, I
>> tend to choose correctness, but I'm not so sure in this case. I'm not sure with
>> reverting either, which is why I post this as an RFC only.
>>
>> I hope to get some more comments on how to proceed here for 0.13.
> 
> Sometimes an improvement has a side effect and it makes sense to hold
> back the improvement until the side effect can be resolved.  The
> period of time in which users could rely on qcow2 data integrity is
> small to none, I feel reverting the commit makes sense.

Right, that's the vague feeling I have, too.

> QEMU 0.12.5 has qcow2 sync metadata writes in commit
> 37060c28e522843fbf6f7e59af745dfcb05b132c.  Was the performance
> regression spotted on 0.12.5 or 0.13?

Both. You mean we should consider a 0.12.6 if we decide to revert? I
think so far 0.12.5 was planned to be last 0.12.x release.

Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-24 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06   ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-08-24 11:56     ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21             ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35                 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:39                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53                     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23       ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:39           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25  7:14                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 12:46                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:37                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:21                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49                             ` Daniel P. Berrange

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