From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
hch@lst.de, mjt@tls.msk.ru, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:35:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C73BC7A.9000409@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C73BAA6.6000808@redhat.com>
Am 24.08.2010 14:27, schrieb Avi Kivity:
> On 08/24/2010 03:21 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 08/24/2010 03:12 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>> Well, safety is not boolean. Considering to make it mostly safe instead
>>>>> of completely safe because of the performance doesn't mean that we
>>>>> should make it completely unsafe.
>>>>>
>>>> What is safety then? A vague feeling of "oh today is monday so my data
>>>> is safe, but on tuesday I always lose my image data"? Either we promise
>>>> to keep data safe or we don't. There is no in between.
>>>>
>>> Do you drive a car?
>> Would you buy a car where the breaks are known to not always work? ;)
>
> That's not the case, even with cache=unsafe.
>
>>> Though in general I agree we shouldn't compromise on data integrity.
>> That's my point. Either we go for it or we don't.
>
> I don't know how bad the performance regression is, and how large the
> integrity risk is. I'd default towards preserving integrity, but maybe
> this situation is different.
I have reports of installations taking like 50 min instead of 14 min. My
own qemu-io based test goes up from 1 s to 23 s. And I think the winner
is Michael's image conversion which went up from 30 s to 49 min.
So it's not like we're talking about just some 10 or 20 percent.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-24 12:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:56 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-08-24 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 7:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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