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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	hch@lst.de, mjt@tls.msk.ru, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:35:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C73BC7A.9000409@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C73BAA6.6000808@redhat.com>

Am 24.08.2010 14:27, schrieb Avi Kivity:
>   On 08/24/2010 03:21 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>   On 08/24/2010 03:12 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>> Well, safety is not boolean. Considering to make it mostly safe instead
>>>>> of completely safe because of the performance doesn't mean that we
>>>>> should make it completely unsafe.
>>>>>
>>>> What is safety then? A vague feeling of "oh today is monday so my data
>>>> is safe, but on tuesday I always lose my image data"? Either we promise
>>>> to keep data safe or we don't. There is no in between.
>>>>
>>> Do you drive a car?
>> Would you buy a car where the breaks are known to not always work? ;)
> 
> That's not the case, even with cache=unsafe.
> 
>>> Though in general I agree we shouldn't compromise on data integrity.
>> That's my point. Either we go for it or we don't.
> 
> I don't know how bad the performance regression is, and how large the 
> integrity risk is.  I'd default towards preserving integrity, but maybe 
> this situation is different.

I have reports of installations taking like 50 min instead of 14 min. My
own qemu-io based test goes up from 1 s to 23 s. And I think the winner
is Michael's image conversion which went up from 30 s to 49 min.

So it's not like we're talking about just some 10 or 20 percent.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-24 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06   ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:56     ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21             ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35                 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-08-24 12:39                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53                     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23       ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:39           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25  7:14                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 12:46                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:37                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:21                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49                             ` Daniel P. Berrange

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