From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
stefanha@gmail.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
hch@lst.de
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:07:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7515AE.9020808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C7510C1.8080305@codemonkey.ws>
On 08/25/2010 03:46 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 08/25/2010 02:14 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> If (c) happens before (b), then we've created an extent that's
>>> attached to a table with a zero reference count. This is a corrupt
>>> image.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If the only issue is new block allocation, it can be easily solved.
>
> Technically, I believe there are similar issues around creating
> snapshots but I don't think we care.
>
>> Instead of allocating exactly the needed amount of blocks, allocate
>> a large extent and hold them in memory.
>
> So you're suggesting that we allocate a bunch of blocks, update the
> ref count table so that they are seen as allocated even though they
> aren't attached to an l1 table?
Yes. Like malloc() will ask the OS for more memory that the 20-byte
allocation you've requested.
>
>> The next allocation can then be filled from memory, so the
>> allocation sync is amortized over many blocks. A power fail will
>> leak the preallocated blocks, losing some megabytes of address space,
>> but not real disk space.
>
> It's a clever idea, but it would lose real disk space which is
> probably not a huge issue.
Not real disk space since no pwrite() would ever touch the disk. If the
image were copied, _then_ we'd lose the disk space, if the copy command
and filesystem don't optimize zeros away.
>>>
>>> And that's it. There is no scenario where the disk is corrupted.
>>
>> _if_ that's the only failure mode.
>
> If we had another disk format that only supported growth and metadata
> for a backing file, can you think of another failure scenario?
>
I can't think of one, but that's not saying much.
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-25 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:56 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 7:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-08-25 13:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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