From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
stefanha@gmail.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
hch@lst.de
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:15:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7533A7.7090404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C753171.2050405@codemonkey.ws>
On 08/25/2010 06:06 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 08/25/2010 09:36 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>
>>> If you tried to maintain a free list, then you would need to sync on
>>> TRIM/DISCARD which is potentially a fast path. While a background
>>> task may be less efficient in the short term, it's just as efficient
>>> in the long term and it has the advantage of keeping any fast path
>>> fast.
>>>
>>
>> You only need to sync when the free list size grows beyond the amount
>> of space you're prepared to lose on power fail. And you may be able
>> to defer the background task indefinitely by satisfying new
>> allocations from the free list.
>
> Free does not mean free. If you immediately punch a hole in the l2
> without doing a sync, then you're never sure whether the hole is there
> on disk or not. So if you then allocate that block and put it
> somewhere else in another l2 table, you need to sync the previous l2
> change before you update the new l2.
>
> Otherwise you can have two l2 entries pointing to the same block after
> a power failure. That's not a leak, that's a data corruption.
L2 certainly needs to be updated before the block is reused. But that's
not different from a file format without a free list.
The batching I was referring to was only for free list management, same
as the allocation issue which started this thread.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-25 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:56 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 7:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-08-25 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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