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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	agl@us.ibm.com, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Should QMP be RPC to internal C interfaces?
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:05:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7CFE1A.3000504@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100831095845.01290899@doriath>

On 08/31/2010 07:58 AM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:48:51 +0200
> Markus Armbruster<armbru@redhat.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>      
>>> My position is that we aren't any closer to having compatible APIs
>>> then we were with the human monitor.  I think we need to focus on
>>> compatibility and that that has to be solved as the QEMU interface
>>> level.  I contend that it's not solvable at the QMP level.
>>>        
>> We've argued from day 0 every step along the way.  And here we are, one
>> year later, still arguing about the very basics.
>>
>> There's a fundamental disagreement.  I want to keep QMP the way it was
>> designed: supporting compatible evolution.  You want to remake it from
>> the ground up as RPC to internal C interfaces.
>>
>> It seems exceedingly unlikely to me that we can agree on the wisdom of
>> such a remake.  We can repeat and elaborate on our arguments for a
>> while, but let's face it: we want different things.
>>      
> Yes, that's the fundamental problem here.
>    

Okay, so what's the path forward?

I've proposed something that I think can get us out of the rut that 
we're in.  I've got code to support that.

Ignoring what I've proposed, what do we do differently?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>> I'm afraid I can't build you the thing you want.  The best I can offer
>> is to step out of the way and let you build it.
>>
>>      
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-31 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-27  5:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] virtio-balloon: Don't wait indefinitely for guest response Amit Shah
2010-08-27  5:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/3] balloon: Don't try fetching info if guest is unresponsive Amit Shah
2010-08-27  5:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message Amit Shah
2010-08-27  9:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-08-27 12:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 12:58       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-08-27 13:59         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-27 14:15           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-27 14:59             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 15:33               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-08-27 15:45                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 16:08               ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-27 19:02                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 19:24                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-27 19:37                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-27 20:58                       ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-30 14:52                       ` Should QMP be RPC to internal C interfaces? (was: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message) Markus Armbruster
2010-08-30 15:28                         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Should QMP be RPC to internal C interfaces? Anthony Liguori
2010-08-30 15:38                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-30 16:16                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-30 16:26                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-31 12:48                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-31 12:58                                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-08-31 13:05                                     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-08-31  8:47                           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-31 13:03                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-28  0:52       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] qerror: Add a new MACHINE_STOPPED error message Amit Shah
2010-08-30  8:30         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-30 13:06           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-30 15:01             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-30 19:17               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disable virtio-balloon memory stats interface Adam Litke
2010-08-31  3:42                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2010-09-08 10:57                   ` Amit Shah
2010-08-27  5:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] balloon: Don't try fetching info if machine is stopped Amit Shah

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