From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU interfaces for image streaming and post-copy block migration
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:20:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C86582E.3040401@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimiSEdCERdhQ_F-7R5AQK7A9MyAUmf9eqiR+uye@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/07/2010 10:09 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> Right, so that argues for an incremental interface like I started with :-)
>>
>> BTW, this whole discussion is also relevant for other background tasks like
>> online defragmentation so keep that use-case in mind too.
>>
> Right, I'm a little hesitant to get too far into discussing the
> management interface because I remember long threads about polling and
> async. I never fully read them but I bet some wisdom came out of them
> that applies here.
>
> There are two ways to do a long running (async?) task:
> 1. Multiple smaller pokes. Perhaps completion of a single poke is
> async. But the key is that the interface is incremental and driven by
> the management stack.
> 2. State. Turn on streaming and watch it go. You can find out its
> current state using another command which will tell you whether it is
> enabled/disabled and progress. Use a command to disable it.
>
If everyone is going to do (1) by just doing a tight loop or just using
the same simple mechanism (a sleep(5)), then I agree, we should do (2).
I can envision people wanting to do very complex decisions about the
right time to do the next poke though and I'm looking for feedback about
what other people think.
I expected people to do complex heuristics with respect to migration
convergence but in reality, I don't think anyone does today. So while I
generally like being flexible, I realize that too much flexibility isn't
always a good thing :-)
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Stefan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-07 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-07 13:41 [Qemu-devel] QEMU interfaces for image streaming and post-copy block migration Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:01 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-07 14:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 15:20 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-09-08 8:26 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 14:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-07 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 13:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 16:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 17:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 15:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 15:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 16:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 15:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-09-07 15:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 10:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
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