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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [SeaBIOS] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Passing boot order from qemu to seabios
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:51:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CB386EC.2040105@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A62EA512287487ABD27EB8A05A6E1C2@FSCPC>

On 10/11/2010 02:41 PM, Sebastian Herbszt wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 10/11/2010 01:30 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2010 02:59 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>> No boot rom should do that. extboot wreaks havoc when it is used.
>>>> And since virtio is now supported by bios there is no reason to use it.
>>>
>>> You don't really have a choice.  You could be doing hardware passthrough 
>>> and the ROM on the card may hijack int19.
>>
>> The BBS standard actually documents how to deal with that -- it pretty
>> much works out to "let the card initialize, then see if it mucked with
>> int19, and then put int19 back... if we want to run that card, then we
>> invoke the int19 that the card set up."
> 
> The BIOS Boot Specification, Version 1.01 from January 11, 1996 seems not to
> recommend this:
> 
> 3.4 Legacy IPL Devices
> 
> "Legacy IPL devices will be allowed to take control of the system (via hooking
> interrupts) in both Legacy and PnP systems. The Plug and Play BIOS specification
> recommends that Legacy devices that hook a bootstrap interrupt such as INT 19h, 18h,
> or 13h have the interrupt re-captured by the BIOS. This is not done because grabbing
> an interrupt vector back after a device has hooked it can produce unpredictable results.
> Further, by allowing the card to take control, the behavior of these Legacy cards will
> be the same on both PnP and Legacy machines."
> 
> 6.8 Notes on the POST Process
> 
> "The Plug and Play BIOS Specification says that if a Legacy IPL device's option
> ROM captures INT 18h or INT 19h, the BIOS should save this vector and then
> restore the original one put there by the BIOS. The BIOS Boot Specification
> deviates from this in that these vectors are not recaptured after each Legacy option
> ROM returns from initialization. That would be considered unsafe."
> 

Sorry, you're right -- I confused the PNPBIOS spec with the BBS spec
(and compounded the error by correctly remembering that BBS overrides
PNPBIOS).

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-11 10:18 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Passing boot order from qemu to seabios Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 10:32 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-11 10:43   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 11:01     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-11 12:07   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-10-11 12:16     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 19:48       ` [SeaBIOS] " Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 19:59         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 20:30           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 20:36             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 20:50               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 21:14                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 21:15             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-11 21:41               ` Sebastian Herbszt
2010-10-11 21:51                 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-10-12  8:01               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-12 16:33                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-12 16:56                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-12 17:35                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-12 17:41                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-12 17:45                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-12 19:06                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-13 19:17                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-13 20:00                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-13 20:22                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-11 19:51     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 20:02       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 20:18       ` [SeaBIOS] " H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-11 11:16 ` Bernhard Kohl
2010-10-11 12:08   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 23:33     ` [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2010-10-11 12:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 14:29     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 15:52       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 16:04         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 17:01         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 17:04           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 23:16             ` [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2010-10-12  8:44             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:39   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-11 15:42     ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:52       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-12  0:08 ` Kevin O'Connor

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