From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51427 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P5hn6-0004G3-Qa for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:33:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P5hn2-0006IJ-6b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:33:28 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:43013 helo=mail.zytor.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P5hn1-0006HU-UK for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:33:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4CB48DCC.80804@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:33:16 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [SeaBIOS] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Passing boot order from qemu to seabios References: <20101011101855.GA25030@redhat.com> <4CB2E7D0.1010702@redhat.com> <4CB2FDF2.1020705@redhat.com> <20101011121634.GB28008@redhat.com> <4CB36A20.5020106@codemonkey.ws> <20101011195955.GA5218@redhat.com> <4CB373DD.50307@codemonkey.ws> <4CB37E6E.8010106@zytor.com> <20101012080124.GY2397@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20101012080124.GY2397@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gleb Natapov Cc: Kevin Wolf , seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org On 10/12/2010 01:01 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 02:15:26PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >>> I don't disagree. >>> >>> I think the best thing to do is to let SeaBIOS create a boot order table >>> that contains descriptive information and then advertise that to QEMU. >>> >>> QEMU can then try to associate the list of bootable devices with it's >>> own set of devices and select a preferred order that it can then give >>> back to SeaBIOS. SeaBIOS can then present that list to the user for >>> additional refinement. >> >> Really, this kind of comes down to having a data structure that anything >> (Qemu, SeaBIOS and if needed the guest OS) can read and modify as needed. >> > But then QEMU and seabios will have to have shared storage they can > both write too. And this shared storage is part of VM now so you need > to carry it around when you move your VM elsewhere. > Yes, and it's part of real hardware, too. It's usually called "the CMOS", short for CMOS RAM. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.