From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55113 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P62tO-0008QQ-0w for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:05:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P62iY-0003th-K6 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:54:11 -0400 Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.153]:54778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P62iY-0003tb-EQ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:54:10 -0400 Received: from d03relay05.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay05.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.107]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o9DEhKtL014820 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:43:20 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay05.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id o9DErW3x114982 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:53:57 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id o9DErWf7007755 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:53:32 -0600 Message-ID: <4CB5C7EA.4000305@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:53:30 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] qed: Read/write support References: <1286552914-27014-7-git-send-email-stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB479D2.7030901@redhat.com> <4CB47D38.3060602@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB48144.9030607@redhat.com> <20101012155953.GA13872@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> <4CB489D1.3050204@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20101013121328.GB8998@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> <4CB5AF0D.9000800@redhat.com> <4CB5B2FD.9030205@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB5B908.1020406@redhat.com> <20101013140715.GF8998@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> <4CB5BDD1.8050409@redhat.com> <4CB5BE25.3060502@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4CB5BF2D.3080500@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4CB5BF2D.3080500@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Kevin Wolf , Christoph Hellwig , Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel@nongnu.org On 10/13/2010 09:16 AM, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 10/13/2010 04:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>> Why would you ever update the header, apart from relocating L1 for >>> some reason? >> >> >> To update the L1/L2 tables clean bit. That's what prevents a check >> in the normal case where you have a clean shutdown. > > I see - so you wouldn't update it every allocation, only when the disk > has been quiet for a while. Right, the current plan is to flush the header dirty bit on shutdown or whenever there is an explicit flush of the device. Current that is caused by either a guest-initiated flush or a L1 update. We also plan to add a timer-based flush such that a flush is scheduled for some period of time (like 5 minutes) after the dirty bit is set. The end result should be that the only window for requiring a metadata scan is if a crash occurs within 5 minutes of a cluster allocation and an explicit flush has not occurred for some other reason. Regards, Anthony Liguori