From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53024 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8BmU-0004Iy-1T for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:59:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8BmO-0005Pd-V9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:59:05 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:32872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8BmO-0005PY-OF for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:59:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4CBD960D.8020806@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:58:53 +0200 From: Dor Laor MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for Oct 19 References: <20101019021117.GI25455@sequoia.sous-sol.org> <4CBD93B8.9070002@redhat.com> <4CBD955E.8060909@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4CBD955E.8060909@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: dlaor@redhat.com List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: chrisw@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, Juan Quintela , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Chris Wright , Ayal Baron , "Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)" On 10/19/2010 02:55 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 10/19/2010 02:48 PM, Dor Laor wrote: >> On 10/19/2010 04:11 AM, Chris Wright wrote: >>> * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote: >>>> >>>> Please send in any agenda items you are interested in covering. >>> >>> - 0.13.X -stable handoff >>> - 0.14 planning >>> - threadlet work >>> - virtfs proposals >>> >> >> - Live snapshots >> - We were asked to add this feature for external qcow2 >> images. Will simple approach of fsync + tracking each requested >> backing file (it can be per vDisk) and re-open the new image would >> be accepted? >> - Integration with FS freeze for consistent guest app snapshot >> Many apps do not sync their ram state to disk correctly or frequent >> enough. Physical world backup software calls fs freeze on xfs and >> VSS for windows to make the backup consistent. >> In order to integrated this with live snapshots we need a guest >> agent to trigger the guest fs freeze. >> We can either have qemu communicate with the agent directly through >> virtio-serial or have a mgmt daemon use virtio-serial to >> communicate with the guest in addition to QMP messages about the >> live snapshot state. >> Preferences? The first solution complicates qemu while the second >> complicates mgmt. > > Third option, make the freeze path management -> qemu -> virtio-blk -> > guest kernel -> file systems. The advantage is that it's easy to > associate file systems with a block device this way. OTH the userspace freeze path already exist and now you create another path. What about FS that span over LVM with multiple drives? IDE/SCSI?