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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Static tracepoint control via trace-event
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:46:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBDA13B.1070904@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019133057.GA3950@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com>

Am 19.10.2010 15:30, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 03:08:08PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> One quirk I stumbled over quickly was the "disable" tag in trace-events.
>> It confused me first as qemu starts without any tracepoint enabled by
>> default and I thought I had to hack the file. Then I read the doc and
>> wondered which exiting or future backend would come without sufficiently
>> fast dynamic tracepoint control. Do you have any in mind?
>>
>> Instead of making it a compile-time switch (except for simpletrace), I
>> would vote for declaring the simpletrace usage as the only one: disable
>> sets the default state of the dynamic tracepoint. That way we could use
>> trace-events to define a useful set of standard, moderate-impact
>> tracepoints that shall be on. Others will still be available once a
>> backend is configured, but remain off until enabled during runtime.
>> Anything else looks like overkill to me.
> 
> The motivation for "disable" producing a nop trace event is that it
> allows QEMU builds without certain trace events.  A trace event cannot
> simply be removed by deleting its trace-events declaration since there
> are calls to its trace_*() function in the source tree.  So this
> provided a way to disable trace events before simpletrace supported
> enabling/disabling trace events at runtime :).
> 
> Today that's no longer an issue for simpletrace and other tracing
> backends like LTTng UST and SystemTAP handle disabled trace events well.
> 
> I agree that keeping just one meaning for the "disable" keyword is
> better.  Perhaps we should keep a separate "nop" keyword to build out
> specific trace events.
> 
> When would "nop" be handy?  I think an ftrace backend is a good example.
> Since an ftrace marker cannot be enabled/disabled at runtime, the only
> way to silence unwanted trace events is to "nop" them at compile-time.

Another to-do item is to remove the strange dependency of tracing
managements features on CONFIG_SIMPLE_TRACE. That way the monitor
commands and a to-be-added command line option to control individual
tracepoints could of course also be used by an ftrace backend. I bet the
DTrace backend will like to see this as well.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-19 13:08 [Qemu-devel] Static tracepoint control via trace-event Jan Kiszka
2010-10-19 13:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 13:46   ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2010-10-19 14:03     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 14:12     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-10-19 14:30       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-19 13:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-10-19 13:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 13:59     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-10-19 14:29       ` Tracing block devices (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Static tracepoint control via trace-event) Richard W.M. Jones
2010-10-19 14:38         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Tracing block devices Jan Kiszka
2010-10-19 14:44         ` Tracing block devices (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] Static tracepoint control via trace-event) Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-21  5:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21  7:38           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-10-21  9:04           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-21  8:51         ` Daniel P. Berrange

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