From: "Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)" <jvrao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Arun R Bharadwaj <arun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Introduce threadlets
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:19:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBE5FCA.4020802@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CBE0F5F.3020204@codemonkey.ws>
On 10/19/2010 2:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 10/19/2010 01:36 PM, Balbir Singh wrote:
>>> + qemu_mutex_lock(&(queue->lock));
>>> + while (1) {
>>> + ThreadletWork *work;
>>> + int ret = 0;
>>> +
>>> + while (QTAILQ_EMPTY(&(queue->request_list))&&
>>> + (ret != ETIMEDOUT)) {
>>> + ret = qemu_cond_timedwait(&(queue->cond),
>>> + &(queue->lock), 10*100000);
>>>
>> Ewww... what is 10*100000, can we use something more meaningful
>> please?
>>
>
> A define is fine but honestly, it's pretty darn obvious what it means...
>
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + assert(queue->idle_threads != 0);
>>>
>> This assertion holds because we believe one of the idle_threads
>> actually did the dequeuing, right?
>>
>
> An idle thread is a thread is one that is not doing work. At this point in the
> code, we are not doing any work (yet) so if idle_threads count is zero,
> something is horribly wrong. We're also going to unconditionally decrement in
> the future code path which means that if idle_threads is 0, it's going to become
> -1.
>
> The use of idle_thread is to detect whether it's necessary to spawn an
> additional thread.
>
>>> + if (QTAILQ_EMPTY(&(queue->request_list))) {
>>> + if (queue->cur_threads> queue->min_threads) {
>>> + /* We retain the minimum number of threads */
>>> + break;
>>> + }
>>> + } else {
>>> + work = QTAILQ_FIRST(&(queue->request_list));
>>> + QTAILQ_REMOVE(&(queue->request_list), work, node);
>>> +
>>> + queue->idle_threads--;
>>> + qemu_mutex_unlock(&(queue->lock));
>>> +
>>> + /* execute the work function */
>>> + work->func(work);
>>> +
>>> + qemu_mutex_lock(&(queue->lock));
>>> + queue->idle_threads++;
>>> + }
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + queue->idle_threads--;
>>> + queue->cur_threads--;
>>> + qemu_mutex_unlock(&(queue->lock));
>>> +
>>> + return NULL;
>>>
>> Does anybody do a join on the exiting thread from the pool?
>>
>
> No. The thread is created in a detached state.
>
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static void spawn_threadlet(ThreadletQueue *queue)
>>> +{
>>> + QemuThread thread;
>>> +
>>> + queue->cur_threads++;
>>> + queue->idle_threads++;
>>> +
>>> + qemu_thread_create(&thread, threadlet_worker, queue);
>>>
>>
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +/**
>>> + * submit_threadletwork_to_queue: Submit a new task to a private queue to be
>>> + * executed asynchronously.
>>> + * @queue: Per-subsystem private queue to which the new task needs
>>> + * to be submitted.
>>> + * @work: Contains information about the task that needs to be submitted.
>>> + */
>>> +void submit_threadletwork_to_queue(ThreadletQueue *queue, ThreadletWork *work)
>>> +{
>>> + qemu_mutex_lock(&(queue->lock));
>>> + if (queue->idle_threads == 0&& queue->cur_threads< queue->max_threads) {
>>> + spawn_threadlet(queue);
>>>
>> So we hold queue->lock, spawn the thread, the spawned thread tries to
>> acquire queue->lock
>>
>
> Yup.
>
>>> + }
>>> + QTAILQ_INSERT_TAIL(&(queue->request_list), work, node);
>>> + qemu_mutex_unlock(&(queue->lock));
>>> + qemu_cond_signal(&(queue->cond));
>>>
>> In the case that we just spawned the threadlet, the cond_signal is
>> spurious. If we need predictable scheduling behaviour,
>> qemu_cond_signal needs to happen with queue->lock held.
>>
>
> It doesn't really affect predictability..
>
>> I'd rewrite the function as
>>
>> /**
>> * submit_threadletwork_to_queue: Submit a new task to a private queue to be
>> * executed asynchronously.
>> * @queue: Per-subsystem private queue to which the new task needs
>> * to be submitted.
>> * @work: Contains information about the task that needs to be submitted.
>> */
>> void submit_threadletwork_to_queue(ThreadletQueue *queue, ThreadletWork *work)
>> {
>> qemu_mutex_lock(&(queue->lock));
>> if (queue->idle_threads == 0&& (queue->cur_threads< queue->max_threads)) {
>> spawn_threadlet(queue);
>> } else {
>> qemu_cond_signal(&(queue->cond));
>> }
>> QTAILQ_INSERT_TAIL(&(queue->request_list), work, node);
>> qemu_mutex_unlock(&(queue->lock));
>> }
>>
>
> I think this is a lot more fragile. You're relying on the fact that signal will
> not cause the signalled thread to actually awaken until we release the lock and
> doing work after signalling that the signalled thread needs to be completed
> before it wakes up.
Given that qemu_cond_timedwait() need to get the queue->lock before returning
the singalled thread will wakeup and wait on the queue->lock.
- JV
>
> I think you're a lot more robust in the long term if you treat condition
> signalling as a hand off point because it makes the code a lot more explicit
> about what's happening.
>
>>> +/**
>>> + * submit_threadletwork: Submit to the global queue a new task to be executed
>>> + * asynchronously.
>>> + * @work: Contains information about the task that needs to be submitted.
>>> + */
>>> +void submit_threadletwork(ThreadletWork *work)
>>> +{
>>> + if (unlikely(!globalqueue_init)) {
>>> + threadlet_queue_init(&globalqueue, MAX_GLOBAL_THREADS,
>>> + MIN_GLOBAL_THREADS);
>>> + globalqueue_init = 1;
>>> + }
>>>
>> What protects globalqueue_init?
>>
>
> qemu_mutex, and that unlikely is almost certainly a premature optimization.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-20 3:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-19 17:42 [Qemu-devel] v6: [PATCH 0/3]: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-19 17:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Introduce threadlets Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-19 18:36 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-19 19:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-10-19 19:12 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-19 19:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-10-19 21:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2010-10-20 2:26 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-19 21:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-20 2:22 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-20 3:46 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2010-10-20 13:05 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-20 13:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-20 3:19 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV) [this message]
2010-10-20 8:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 17:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Make paio subsystem use threadlets Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-20 2:24 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-20 8:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-20 9:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-20 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-21 8:40 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-21 9:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 17:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add helper functions for virtio-9p to " Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-20 11:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-20 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-20 11:57 ` [Qemu-devel] v6: [PATCH 0/3]: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Amit Shah
2010-10-20 12:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-20 13:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-22 9:59 ` Amit Shah
2010-10-23 12:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-27 7:57 ` Amit Shah
2010-10-27 8:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-26 14:14 [Qemu-devel] v8: [PATCH 0/3] " Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-26 14:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Introduce threadlets Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-26 19:31 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-01 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-05 6:48 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-21 12:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3]: v7: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-21 12:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Introduce threadlets Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-22 7:02 ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-13 16:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3]: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-13 16:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3]: Introduce threadlets Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-13 15:30 [Qemu-devel] v5 [PATCH 0/3] qemu: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-13 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Introduce threadlets Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-14 9:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-14 21:17 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2010-10-15 9:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-15 14:56 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2010-10-14 9:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-14 9:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-10-14 16:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-14 21:32 ` Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)
2010-10-17 8:57 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-18 10:47 ` Arun R Bharadwaj
2010-10-18 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-15 8:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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