From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50737 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8pq9-0002Az-ST for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:45:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8pq7-0004vQ-VG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:45:32 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f45.google.com ([209.85.161.45]:57470) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8pq7-0004v7-OS for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:45:31 -0400 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so3729499fxm.4 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <4CBFEF95.9060703@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:45:25 +0200 From: Paolo Bonzini MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Oct 19 References: <20101019151441.GA24673@x200.localdomain> <4DE00079-05FA-40DF-9EA5-9573AD745117@suse.de> <4CBEE84F.7060207@codemonkey.ws> <20101020131925.GH15143@redhat.com> <4CBEECE6.8030605@codemonkey.ws> <4CBF7154.2070304@redhat.com> <9DABD2D4-389E-4D05-8A4C-2DE1E20D3B5C@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <9DABD2D4-389E-4D05-8A4C-2DE1E20D3B5C@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Alexander Graf Cc: Chris Wright , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , "dlaor@redhat.com" , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" On 10/21/2010 03:14 AM, Alexander Graf wrote: >> I agree that some agent code for basic stuff like live snapshot >> sync with the filesystem is small enough and worth to host within >> qemu. Maybe we do need more than one project? > > No, please. That's exactly what I don't want to see. The > libvirt/qemu/virt-man split is killing us already. How is this going > to become with 20 driver packs for the guest? Agreed. Not relying on Mata Hari and reinventing a dbus/WMI interface would be yet another case of QEMU NIH. The same argument also works on the backend BTW, it can be virtio serial but also a Xen pvconsole and that wheel should not be reinvented either. The guest agent should be a pluggable architecture, and QEMU can provide plugins for sync, spice, "info balloon" and everything else it needs. Paolo