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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefan.hajnoczi@uk.ibm.com>,
	Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] v2 Fix Block Hotplug race with drive_unplug()
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:57:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CCAE0E0.7020707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CCADCF9.5030508@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Am 29.10.2010 16:40, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 10/29/2010 09:29 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 29.10.2010 16:15, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> I don't think it's a bad idea to do that but to the extent that the
>>> block API is designed after posix file I/O, close does not usually imply
>>> flush.
>>>      
>> I don't think it really resembles POSIX. More or less the only thing
>> they have in common is that both provide open, read, write and close,
>> which is something that probably any API for file accesses provides.
>>
>> The operation you're talking about here is bdrv_flush/fsync that is not
>> implied by a POSIX close?
>>    
> 
> Yes.  But I think for the purposes of this patch, a bdrv_cancel_all() 
> would be just as good.  The intention is to eliminate pending I/O 
> requests, the fsync is just a side effect.

Well, if I'm not mistaken, bdrv_flush would provide only this side
effect and not the semantics that you're really looking for. This is why
I suggested adding both bdrv_flush and qemu_aio_flush. We could probably
introduce a qemu_aio_flush variant that flushes only one
BlockDriverState - this is what you really want.

>>>> And why do we have to flush here, but not before other uses of
>>>> bdrv_close(), such as eject_device()?
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> Good question.  Kevin should also confirm, but looking at the code, I
>>> think flush() is needed before close.  If there's a pending I/O event
>>> and you close before the I/O event is completed, you'll get a callback
>>> for completion against a bogus BlockDriverState.
>>>
>>> I can't find anything in either raw-posix or the generic block layer
>>> that would mitigate this.
>>>      
>> I'm not aware of anything either. This is what qemu_aio_flush would do.
>>
>> It seems reasonable to me to call both qemu_aio_flush and bdrv_flush in
>> bdrv_close. We probably don't really need to call bdrv_flush to operate
>> correctly, but it can't hurt and bdrv_close shouldn't happen that often
>> anyway.
>>    
> 
> I agree.  Re: qemu_aio_flush, we have to wait for it to complete which 
> gets a little complicated in bdrv_close().  

qemu_aio_flush is the function that waits for requests to complete.

> I think it would be better 
> to make bdrv_flush() call bdrv_aio_flush() if an explicit bdrv_flush 
> method isn't provided.  Something like the attached (still need to test).
> 
> Does that seem reasonable?

I'm not sure why you want to introduce this emulation. Are there any
drivers that implement bdrv_aio_flush, but not bdrv_flush? They are
definitely broken.

Today, bdrv_aio_flush is emulated using bdrv_flush if the driver doesn't
provide it explicitly.

I think this also means that your first patch would kill any drivers
implementing neither bdrv_flush nor bdrv_aio_flush because they'd try to
emulate the other function in an endless recursion.

And apart from that, as said above, bdrv_flush doesn't do the right
thing anyway. ;-)

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-29 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25 18:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal Ryan Harper
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] v2 Add drive_get_by_id Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 13:18   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] v2 Fix Block Hotplug race with drive_unplug() Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 14:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 14:15     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 14:29       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-29 14:40         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 14:57           ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2010-10-29 15:28             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 16:08               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-30 13:25                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-29 15:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-01 21:06     ` Ryan Harper
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add qmp version of drive_unplug Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 15:03   ` Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 16:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 16:50       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02  9:40         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-02 13:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 13:41           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-11-02 13:46           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 13:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 14:22               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 15:46                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 16:53                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 17:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 19:01                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 19:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 20:23                           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03  7:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-03 12:04                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 16:41                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 17:29                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 18:02                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-03 20:59                                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 21:26                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-04 16:45                                           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-04 17:04                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 13:27                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 14:17                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 14:29                                                 ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-05 16:01                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 21:02                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 14:25                                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-05 16:10                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 16:22                                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-06  8:18                                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08  2:19                                                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 10:32                                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 10:49                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 12:03                                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 14:02                                                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 16:56                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:04                                                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-11-08 18:41                                                                     ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 18:39                                                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 19:06                                                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-11-08 16:34                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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