From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 28/40] xenner: libxc emu: evtchn
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:00:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CCF386D.5020302@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CCF357E.9010208@redhat.com>
On 11/01/2010 04:47 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 11/01/2010 09:32 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure I agree with the goal. I think where ever possible we
>> should reuse code with the Xen project when it makes sense. Reusing
>> blkback/netback is impossible because we want userspace implementations
>> and the current implementations are in the kernel. blktap also doesn't
>> tie into the QEMU block layer and making it tie into the QEMU block
>> layer would probably result in more code than it saved.
>>
>> OTOH, xenstored and xenconsoled have very little direct dependence on
>> Xen. I'm not saying that we shouldn't make things Just Work in QEMU, so
>> if that means spawning xenconsoled/xenstored automagically from QEMU
>> with special options, that's perfectly fine.
>
> xenstored is 3 times bigger than what Alex submitted, however. The
> code is much simpler because _this_ xenstore only serves one domain.
> So it doesn't have to implement permissions, it doesn't have
> complicated threading to handle multiple instances of libxs accessing
> the daemon, and so on. Besides the data structures implementing the
> tree, there's really very little in common, and the xenner code is
> almost trivial.
>
> The situation is similar for the console. There is only one console
> to track here. In fact, maybe it's simplest to implement it as a
> small 8250A driver in the xenner kernel, reading from the serial
> console at 0x3f8 and writing to the ring buffer and vice versa.
Okay, so does the same apply for xenstored? Does it make more sense to
move that into the xenner kernel?
The big advantage of the xenner kernel is that it runs in guest mode so
it's no concern from a security PoV. While xenstored is 3x bigger than
Alex's version, it also has had an awful lot more validation from a
security point of view. Since this is guest facing code, that's important.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-01 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-01 15:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/40] RFC: Xenner Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/40] elf: Move translate_fn to helper struct Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/40] elf: Add notes implementation Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 18:29 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-01 18:42 ` Stefan Weil
2010-11-01 19:51 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 20:19 ` Stefan Weil
2010-11-01 21:17 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 21:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 21:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Weil
2010-11-02 10:17 ` Michael Matz
2010-11-01 18:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 18:52 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 19:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 19:48 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 21:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/40] elf: add header notification Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/40] elf: add section analyzer Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/40] xen-disk: disable aio Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/40] qdev-ify: xen backends Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 10:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-02 10:43 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-11-02 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/40] xenner: kernel: 32 bit files Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/40] xenner: kernel: 64-bit files Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 15:47 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 19:00 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-01 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 19:05 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 19:23 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-01 19:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/40] xenner: kernel: Global data Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/40] xenner: kernel: Hypercall handler (i386) Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/40] xenner: kernel: Hypercall handler (x86_64) Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/40] xenner: kernel: Hypercall handler (generic) Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/40] xenner: kernel: Headers Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/40] xenner: kernel: Instruction emulator Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:41 ` malc
2010-11-01 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/40] xenner: kernel: lapic code Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/40] xenner: kernel: Main (i386) Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/40] xenner: kernel: Main (x86_64) Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/40] xenner: kernel: Main Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/40] xenner: kernel: Makefile Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/40] xenner: kernel: mmu support for 32-bit PAE Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/40] xenner: kernel: mmu support for 32-bit normal Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/40] xenner: kernel: mmu support for 64-bit Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/40] xenner: kernel: generic MM functionality Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/40] xenner: kernel: printk Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/40] xenner: kernel: KVM PV code Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/40] xenner: kernel: xen-names Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/40] xenner: add xc_dom.h Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/40] xenner: libxc emu: evtchn Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 15:49 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 16:07 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 16:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 16:15 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 19:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 19:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 19:47 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 20:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-01 21:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 22:00 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-11-01 22:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-01 22:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-02 4:33 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-11-02 10:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-02 10:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-11-02 10:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-02 13:55 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-11-02 15:48 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 19:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/40] xenner: libxc emu: grant tables Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/40] xenner: libxc emu: memory mapping Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:12 ` malc
2010-11-01 15:15 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/40] xenner: libxc emu: xenstore Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 18:36 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 32/40] xenner: emudev Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 33/40] xenner: core Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:13 ` malc
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 34/40] xenner: PV machine Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 35/40] xenner: Domain Builder Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 10:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-02 15:36 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 15:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-02 16:28 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-01 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/40] RFC: Xenner Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 36/40] xen: only create dummy env when necessary Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 38/40] xenner: integrate into build system Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 39/40] xenner: integrate into xen pv machine Alexander Graf
2010-11-02 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 40/40] xen: add sysrq support Alexander Graf
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