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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 10/10] Maintaing number of dirty pages
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:01:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF67F6F.2000102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF67E35.2060505@codemonkey.ws>

On 12/01/2010 06:56 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 12/01/2010 10:52 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 12/01/2010 06:49 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>> We need actual measurements instead of speculations.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree 100%.  I think the place to start is what I suggested 
>>> in a previous note in this thread, we need to measure actual stall 
>>> time in the guest.
>>
>> I'd actually start at the host.  How much time does 
>> ioctl(KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG) take?  What's the percentage of time 
>> qemu_mutex is held?
>
> The question is, what really are the symptoms of the problem.  It's 
> not necessarily a bad thing if KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG takes a long while 
> qemu_mutex is held.

Whether or not qemu_mutex is held, long KVM_GET_DIRTY_LONG runtimes are 
bad, since they are a lower bound on your downtime.  And 
KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG does a lot of work, and invokes 
synchronize_srcu_expedited(), which can be very slow.

>
> Is the problem that the monitor responds slowly?  Is the problem that 
> the guest isn't consistently getting execution time?  Is the proper 
> simply that the guest isn't getting enough total execution time?

All three can happen if qemu_mutex is held too long.  The third can 
happen for other reasons (like KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG holding the mmu 
spinlock for too long, can fix with O(1) write protection).

>
> I think we need to identify exactly what the problem is before we look 
> for sources.
>


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-01 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-23 23:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] Fix migration with lots of memory Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] Add spent time to migration Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] Add buffered_file_internal constant Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 10:52     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 11:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 11:13         ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 11:19           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <4CF46012.2060804@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 11:56         ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 14:02           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:11             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-30 14:22               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 15:40             ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 16:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-30 16:32                 ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 16:44                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 18:04                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 18:54                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 19:15                         ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-30 20:23                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 20:56                             ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] Add printf debug to savevm Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45AB2.7050506@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 10:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-30 22:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  7:50         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] No need to iterate if we already are over the limit Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] KVM don't care about TLB handling Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] Only calculate expected_time for stage 2 Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] ram_save_remaining() returns an uint64_t Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45C0C.705@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30  7:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 13:44       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:38     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] Count nanoseconds with uint64_t not doubles Juan Quintela
2010-11-30  7:17   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]   ` <4CF45C5B.9080507@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 14:40     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] Exit loop if we have been there too long Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 11:01     ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-24 11:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24 15:16         ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24 15:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]           ` <4CF45E3F.4040609@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30  8:10             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 13:26             ` Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45D67.5010906@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30  7:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 13:58         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 14:27             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:50               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 12:40                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 17:43               ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  1:20               ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-01  1:52                 ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01  2:22                   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-01 12:35                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 13:45                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-02  1:31                     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-12-02  8:37                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-30 14:12         ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-30 15:00           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30 17:59             ` Juan Quintela
2010-11-23 23:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] Maintaing number of dirty pages Juan Quintela
     [not found]   ` <4CF45DE0.8020701@codemonkey.ws>
2010-11-30 14:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 14:46       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 15:51         ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 15:55           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 16:25             ` Juan Quintela
2010-12-01 16:33               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 16:43                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:49                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 16:52                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:56                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 17:01                         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-01 17:05                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-01 18:51                             ` Juan Quintela

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