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From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	abeekhof@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ryanh@us.ibm.com,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 07/21] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:04:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D014440.6050400@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1291905624.2260.2.camel@aglitke>

On 12/09/2010 08:40 AM, Adam Litke wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:19 +0100, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>> On 12/07/10 17:00, Adam Litke wrote:
>>> Hi Jes, you raise some good points and pitfalls with the current getfile
>>> approach.  I've been thinking about an alternative and am wondering what
>>> you (and others) think...
>>>
>>> First off, I think we should switch to a copyfile() API that allows us
>>> to avoid presenting the file contents to the user.  Neither the human
>>> monitor nor the control monitor are designed to be file pagers.  Let the
>>> user decide how to consume the data once it has been transferred.  Now
>>> we don't need to care if the file is binary or text.
>>>
>>> The virtagent RPC protocol is bi-directional and supports asynchronous
>>> events.  We can use these to implement a better copyfile RPC that can
>>> transfer larger files without wasting memory.  The host issues a
>>> copyfile(<guest-path>,<host-path>) RPC.  The immediate result of this
>>> call will indicate whether the guest is able to initiate the transfer.
>>> The guest will generate a series of events (<offset>,<size>,<payload>)
>>> until the entire contents has been transferred.  The host and guest
>>> could negotiate the chunk size if necessary.  Once the transfer is
>>> complete, the guest sends a final event to indicate this (<file-size>,
>>> 0).
>>>
>>> This interface could be integrated into the monitor with a pair of
>>> commands (va_copyfile and info va_copyfile), the former used to initiate
>>> transfers and the latter to check on the status.
>>>
>>> Thoughts on this?
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> This sounds a lot safer than the current approach. Intuitively I would
>> think it should be the host controlling the copy, but otherwise it
>> sounds good. Or is there a reason why the guest should control it?
>
> Actually, a host-controlled interface would be both simpler to implement
> (on both ends) and would concentrate control in the host (which is what
> we probably want anyway).
>

I also like the host-controlled mechanism. I think the difficulty is 
about the same either way though. Both would require an FD to be kept 
open, and some mechanism to read/seek in chunks and then send it back.

I don't think this should replace the underlying RPC for viewfile 
however. I'd much rather it be an additional RPC, and we just put strict 
limits on the size of files viewfile/getfile can handle and make it 
clear that it is intended for quickly viewing text. I'll rename the 
getfile RPC to viewfile to make this a bit clearer as well.

>> I think it is vital that we do it in a way where a copy cannot blow
>> QEMU's memory consumption out of the water, but the approach you suggest
>> seems to take care of that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jes
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-09 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-03 18:03 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 00/21] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 01/21] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2010-12-07 13:31   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 14:48     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 15:02       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-08  9:15         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-08  9:17           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-08  9:23             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-08  9:29               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-08 14:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 02/21] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 03/21] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2010-12-06 21:54   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 22:15     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-06 21:57   ` Adam Litke
2010-12-06 22:24     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 13:38   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 15:02     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 04/21] virtagent: transport definitions and job callbacks Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:02   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 22:34     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 13:44   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 17:19     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-08 19:16       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 05/21] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 06/21] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:07   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 07/21] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 23:23     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:18   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 16:00     ` Adam Litke
2010-12-08 19:19       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-09 14:40         ` Adam Litke
2010-12-09 21:04           ` Michael Roth [this message]
2010-12-10  6:38             ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 08/21] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:08   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-06 23:20     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:09       ` Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:26   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-09 21:12     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-10  6:43       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-10 17:09         ` Michael Roth
2010-12-13  8:29           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 09/21] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-07 14:37   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 17:32     ` Michael Roth
2010-12-08 19:22       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-09 21:15         ` Michael Roth
2010-12-10  6:46           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 10/21] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 11/21] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 12/21] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 13/21] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 14/21] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 15/21] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 16/21] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 17/21] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 18/21] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 19/21] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2010-12-06 22:26   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 20/21] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2010-12-07 14:44   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2010-12-03 18:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v5 21/21] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2010-12-07 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 00/21] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Jes Sorensen
2010-12-07 14:29   ` Michael Roth
2010-12-08 10:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-09 20:45   ` Michael Roth
2010-12-09 21:03     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-10  9:42       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-10 10:03     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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