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From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <andreas.faerber@web.de>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] add MADV_DONTFORK to guest physical memory
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:26:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D24D3EB.1080702@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110105195430.GF15823@random.random>

On 01/05/2011 01:54 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 08:44:38PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>
>> On 05.01.2011, at 19:02, Michael Roth wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/05/2011 09:10 AM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>>>> The bug is still there so I rediffed the old patch against current
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> On a related topic: could somebody give me advice on how to implement
>>>> a command line (command line seems enough, the other option would be
>>>> monitor command) to make the MADV_MERGEABLE conditional? I got KSM on
>>>> THP working fine but KSM may decrease performance by increasing the
>>>> number of copy on write and by splitting hugepages, so we'd like to be
>>>> able to turn off KSM on a per-VM basis (not on the whole host, which
>>>> of course we already can by setting /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run to 0) so
>>>> that high perf VMs will keep running at maximum speed with KSM off but
>>>> others may still benefit from KSM. For that I need to make the below
>>>> MADV_MERGEABLE madvise conditional to something and the code itself
>>>> will be trivial, we've just to converge on a command line option
>>>> (hopefully quickly ;).
>>>
>>> There was a -mem_prealloc option added a while back to set MAP_POPULATE on memory mapped in via the -mem-path option. So an analogous -mem_nomerge option or something along that line seems reasonable for conditionally unsetting QEMU_MADV_MERGEABLE.
>>>
>>> And for consistency you should probably make both your proposed changes for -mem-path'd memory as well.
>>
>> Why not clean up all that mess and introduce a new -mem option that would just take all of the several options as parameters?
>>
>> -mem size=512,populate=on,ksm=off
>>
>> and default -m to something reasonable with the new syntax.
>
> I'm neutral... so feel free to decide what I should implement ;).

Have to agree the consolidated approach definitely seems nicer.

>
> One comment on combining -m ksm=off (or -mem_nomerge) with
> -mem-path. It seems unnecessary because ksm can't be turned on on
> VM_HUGETLB vmas (MADV_MERGEABLE will return -EINVAL) and mem-path only
> makes sense if used in combination with hugetlbfs (which sets
> VM_HUGETLB of course).
>

Yah you're right, but I've seen several discussions about using mempath 
for tmpfs/ram-backed files for things like numa/zram/etc so tend to 
think of it as something potentially more than just a hook for 
hugetlbfs, which is becoming less and less useful. But the MADV_DONTFORK 
stuff should still be immediately applicable.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-05 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-15 17:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] add MADV_DONTFORK to guest physical memory Andrea Arcangeli
2010-09-15 17:34 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-15 17:37 ` Andreas Färber
2011-01-05 15:10   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-05 18:02     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-05 19:44       ` Alexander Graf
2011-01-05 19:54         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-05 20:00           ` Alexander Graf
2011-01-05 20:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-05 20:15             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-05 20:26           ` Michael Roth [this message]
2011-01-05 20:35             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-05 21:27               ` Michael Roth
2011-01-06 17:49                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-06 20:49                   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-05 20:10         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-15 21:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-09-16  6:51   ` Gleb Natapov

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