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From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	abeekhof@redhat.com, marcel.mittelstaedt@de.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com,
	aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ryanh@us.ibm.com,
	markus_mueller@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:53:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3457E2.8000603@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D3449C5.1030006@redhat.com>

On 01/17/2011 07:53 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> OVERVIEW:
>>
>> There are a wide range of use cases motivating the need for a guest
>> agent of some sort to extend the functionality/usability/control
>> offered by QEMU. Some examples include graceful guest shutdown/reboot
>> and notifications thereof, copy/paste syncing between host/guest,
>> guest statistics gathering, file access, etc.
>
> What is your plan to handle system-level queries+actions (such as
> reboot) vs. per-user stuff (such as cut+paste)?

This is an area that hasn't been well-defined yet and is definitely open 
for suggestions.

For host->guest RPCs the current plan is to always have the RPC executed 
at the system level, but for situations involving a specific user we 
fork and drop privileges with the RPC, and report back the status of the 
fork/exec. The fork'd process would then do what it needs to do, then if 
needed, communicate status back to the system-level daemon via some IPC 
mechanism (most likely a socket we listen to in addition to the serial 
channel) that can be used to send an event. The system-level daemon then 
communicates these events back to the host with a guest->host RPC.

Processes created independently of the system-level daemon could report 
events in the same manner, via this socket. I think this might suit the 
vdagent client model for Spice as well, things like resolutions changes 
and clipboard contents could be communicated as asynchronous events to 
virtagent via this socket, in place of a separate daemon, and virtagent 
could have RPCs that can route/translate host->guest calls to the 
user-level daemons.

Depending on the event, event-handling would either get consumed within 
virtagent, or punted to qemu's QMP event layer, which may need to be 
extended depending on the types of events we want to handle. The events 
would terminate within QEMU, but handlers could hook into external services.

So that's the rough plan, but would be happy to hear any other thoughts 
on how we might approach this.

>
> cheers,
> Gerd
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-17 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 13:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 01/23] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:56   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 02/23] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 03/23] Make qemu timers available for tools Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:26     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24  7:56       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 04/23] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 05/23] virtagent: transport definitions read/send callback functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 06/23] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 07/23] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:55     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:16       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-24 16:51         ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 17:04           ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 08/23] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:20     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-01-21 18:23       ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 22:08         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:20           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-24 22:48               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 23:40                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  0:22                   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-25  0:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  9:21                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-25 15:12                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 15:43                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-26 13:01                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 09/23] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 10/23] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 11/23] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 12/23] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 13/23] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 14/23] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 15/23] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 16/23] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 17/23] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 18/23] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 19/23] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 20/23] virtagent: add va.capabilities RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 21/23] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 22/23] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 23/23] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 14:53   ` Michael Roth [this message]
2011-01-18 14:02     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-18 14:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-31 14:41         ` Michael Roth
2011-02-01 22:18           ` Michael Roth
2011-02-14  9:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-16 16:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-16 17:22   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-17  8:26     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-17  9:08       ` Dor Laor
2011-02-17 14:39       ` Michael Roth
2011-02-18 12:45         ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 14:30             ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-21  8:32                 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-21 13:36                   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-21 13:38                     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 15:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-18 15:25               ` Anthony Liguori

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