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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] Fake machine for scalability testing
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:50:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D389209.8070202@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m31v47wlch.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 01/20/2011 11:12 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  writes:
>
>    
>> On 01/18/2011 02:16 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>      
>>> The problem: you want to do serious scalability testing (1000s of VMs)
>>> of your management stack.  If each guest eats up a few 100MiB and
>>> competes for CPU, that requires a serious host machine.  Which you don't
>>> have.  You also don't want to modify the management stack at all, if you
>>> can help it.
>>>
>>> The solution: a perfectly normal-looking QEMU that uses minimal
>>> resources.  Ability to execute any guest code is strictly optional ;)
>>>
>>> New option -fake-machine creates a fake machine incapable of running
>>> guest code.  Completely compiled out by default, enable with configure
>>> --enable-fake-machine.
>>>
>>> With -fake-machine, CPU use is negligible, and memory use is rather
>>> modest.
>>>
>>> Non-fake VM running F-14 live, right after boot:
>>> UID        PID  PPID  C    SZ   RSS PSR STIME TTY          TIME CMD
>>> armbru   15707  2558 53 191837 414388 1 21:05 pts/3    00:00:29 [...]
>>>
>>> Same VM -fake-machine, after similar time elapsed:
>>> UID        PID  PPID  C    SZ   RSS PSR STIME TTY          TIME CMD
>>> armbru   15742  2558  0 85129  9412   0 21:07 pts/3    00:00:00 [...]
>>>
>>> We're using a very similar patch for RHEL scalability testing.
>>>
>>>        
>> Interesting, but:
>>
>>   9432 anthony   20   0  153m  14m 5384 S    0  0.2   0:00.22
>> qemu-system-x86
>>
>> That's qemu-system-x86 -m 4
>>      
> Sure you ran qemu-system-x86 -fake-machine?
>    

No, I didn't try it.  My point was that -m 4 is already pretty small.

>> In terms of memory overhead, the largest source is not really going to
>> be addressed by -fake-machine (l1_phys_map and phys_ram_dirty).
>>      
> git-grep phys_ram_dirty finds nothing.
>    

Yeah, it's now ram_list[i].phys_dirty.

l1_phys_map is (sizeof(void *) + sizeof(PhysPageDesc)) * mem_size_in_pages

phys_dirty is mem_size_in_pages bytes.

>> I don't really understand the point of not creating a VCPU with KVM.
>> Is there some type of overhead in doing that?
>>      
> I briefly looked at both main loops, TCG's was the first one I happened
> to crack, and I didn't feel like doing both then.  If the general
> approach is okay, I'll gladly investigate how to do it with KVM.
>    

I guess what I don't understand is why do you need to not run guest 
code?  Specifically, if you remove the following, is it any less useful?

diff --git a/cpu-exec.c b/cpu-exec.c
index 8c9fb8b..cd1259a 100644
--- a/cpu-exec.c
+++ b/cpu-exec.c
@@ -230,7 +230,7 @@ int cpu_exec(CPUState *env1)
      uint8_t *tc_ptr;
      unsigned long next_tb;

-    if (cpu_halted(env1) == EXCP_HALTED)
+    if (fake_machine || cpu_halted(env1) == EXCP_HALTED)

          return EXCP_HALTED;


Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-20 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-18 20:16 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] Fake machine for scalability testing Markus Armbruster
2011-01-20 16:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-20 17:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2011-01-20 19:50     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-01-21 10:38       ` Markus Armbruster
2011-01-21 14:45         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-21 16:51           ` Markus Armbruster
2011-01-21 10:43       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-01-21 14:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-21 14:46           ` Daniel P. Berrange

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