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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM: Windows 64-bit troubles with user space irqchip
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:52:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D497DAB.7010901@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110202154611.GR14984@redhat.com>

On 2011-02-02 16:46, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 04:35:25PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-02-02 16:09, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 02/02/2011 04:52 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2011-02-02 15:43, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>  On 2011-02-02 15:35, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>>>  On 02/02/2011 04:30 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>>  On 2011-02-02 14:05, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>>>>>   On 02/02/2011 02:50 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Opps, -smp 1. With -smp 2 it boot almost completely and then hangs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Ah, good (or not good). With Windows 2003 Server, I actually get a Blue
>>>>>>>>>   Screen (Stop 0x000000b8).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Userspace APIC is broken since it may run with an outdated cr8, does
>>>>>>>>   reverting 27a4f7976d5 help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Can you elaborate on what is broken? The way hw/apic.c maintains the
>>>>>>>  tpr? Would it make sense to compare this against the in-kernel model? Or
>>>>>>>  do you mean something else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The problem, IIRC, was that we look up the TPR but it may already have
>>>>>>  been changed by the running vcpu.  Not 100% sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  If that is indeed the problem then the fix would be to process the APIC
>>>>>>  in vcpu context (which is what the kernel does - we set a bit in the IRR
>>>>>>  and all further processing is synchronous).
>>>>>
>>>>>  You mean: user space changes the tpr value while the vcpu is in KVM_RUN,
>>>>>  then we return from the kernel and overwrite the tpr in the apic with
>>>>>  the vcpu's view, right?
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, probably rather that there is a discrepancy between tpr and irr.
>>>> The latter is changed asynchronously /wrt to the vcpu, the former /wrt
>>>> the user space device model.
>>>
>>> And yet, both are synchronized via qemu_mutex.  So we're still missing 
>>> something in this picture.
>>>
>>>> Run apic_set_irq on the vcpu?
>>>
>>> static void apic_set_irq(APICState *s, int vector_num, int trigger_mode)
>>> {
>>>      apic_irq_delivered += !get_bit(s->irr, vector_num);
>>>
>>>      trace_apic_set_irq(apic_irq_delivered);
>>>
>>>      set_bit(s->irr, vector_num);
>>>
>>> This is even more async with kernel irqchip
>>>
>>>      if (trigger_mode)
>>>          set_bit(s->tmr, vector_num);
>>>      else
>>>          reset_bit(s->tmr, vector_num);
>>>
>>> This is protected by qemu_mutex
>>>
>>>      apic_update_irq(s);
>>>
>>> This will be run the next time the vcpu exits, via apic_get_interrupt().
>>
>> The decision to pend an IRQ (and potentially kick the vcpu) takes place
>> immediately in acip_update_irq. And it is based on current irr as well
>> as tpr. But we update again when user space returns with a new value.
>>
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> Did you check whether reverting that commit helps?
>>>
>>
>> Just did so, and I can no longer reproduce the problem. Hmm...
>>
> If there is no problem in the logic of this commit (and I do not see
> one yet) then we somewhere miss kicking vcpu when interrupt, that should be
> handled, arrives?

I'm not yet confident about the logic of the kernel patch: mov to cr8 is
serializing. If the guest raises the tpr and then signals this with a
succeeding, non vm-exiting instruction to the other vcpus, one of those
could inject an interrupt with a higher priority than the previous tpr,
but a lower one than current tpr. QEMU user space would accept this
interrupt - and would likely surprise the guest. Do I miss something?

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-02 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-01 18:02 [Qemu-devel] KVM: Windows 64-bit troubles with user space irqchip Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 11:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 11:58   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 12:35     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 12:50       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 13:05         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 13:09           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 13:11             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 13:14               ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 13:18                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 14:30           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:35             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 14:43               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 14:52                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 15:09                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 15:35                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 15:44                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-02 15:46                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 15:52                         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-02-02 16:29                           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 16:36                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-02 16:39                               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-02 16:51                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03  7:42                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-03  9:31                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03  8:18                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03  9:32                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 10:01                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-03 10:14                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 10:04                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-03 10:11                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 14:15                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-03 14:27                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-06 10:26                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-06 10:28                                       ` Gleb Natapov

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