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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC: 0/2] patch for QEMU HPET periodic timer emulation to alleviate time drift
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:24:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4B1CF8.8040800@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D4B0B07.2040904@codemonkey.ws>

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On 2011-02-03 21:07, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 02/03/2011 09:28 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-02-03 14:43, Ulrich Obergfell wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am observing severe backward time drift in a MS Windows Vista(tm)
>>> guest running on a Fedora 14 KVM host. I can reproduce the problem
>>> with the following steps:
>>>
>>> 1. Use 'vncviewer' to connect to the guest's desktop.
>>> 2. Click on the menu title bar of a window on the guest's desktop.
>>> 3. Move that window around on the guest's desktop.
>>>
>>> While I keep on moving the window around for one minute, the guest
>>> time falls up to 15 seconds behind host time.
>>>
>>> The problem is caused by delayed callbacks of hpet_timer(). A timer
>>> interrupt is injected into the guest during each callback. However,
>>> interrupts are lost if delays are greater than a comparator period.
>>>
>>>      
>> Yes, that's a well known limitation of qemu, in fact. We are lacking a
>> generic irq coalescing infrastructure. That, once designed and
>> available, would also allow to fix the HPET.
>>    
> 
> I don't think it requires anything that sophisticated.
> 
> It's just the period calculation of the HPET that's wrong and doesn't
> account for loss.

Blind (/wrt the guest state) reinjection from the iothread will
compensate for lost time of *that* thread but not of the target vcpu(s).
So, depending on your workload, you may reduce the drift more or less,
but you won't fix it this way.

Jan


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2011-02-03 15:28   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC: 0/2] patch for QEMU HPET periodic timer emulation to alleviate time drift Jan Kiszka
2011-02-03 20:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-03 21:24       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-02-04  2:06         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-04  8:56           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 12:34             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 13:11               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 13:14                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 13:23                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 13:34                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 13:41                     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-07 13:46                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 13:48                         ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-07 13:51                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 13:54                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-07 14:10                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 14:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 14:43                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 14:54                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 14:57                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 15:01                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 15:08                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 15:13                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 15:17                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 15:29                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 19:30                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-08  9:11                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 15:20                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 15:30                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 19:28                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 14:58                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 15:01                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 15:08                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 15:14                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-07 15:16                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 15:22                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-07 15:18                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-04  9:52           ` Ulrich Obergfell
2011-02-07 10:44       ` Ulrich Obergfell
2011-02-07 13:24       ` Anthony Liguori

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