From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49363 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PnW8I-0008IZ-T2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:00:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PnW8B-0004Id-U9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:00:20 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:7751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PnW8B-0004I6-IY for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:00:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4D53E155.5000807@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:00:05 +0200 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8 References: <4D526D0D.9020507@codemonkey.ws> <4D52A86A.1030407@codemonkey.ws> <4D52F20A.7070009@codemonkey.ws> <4D539800.3070802@codemonkey.ws> <20110210090748.GD673@redhat.com> <4D53BD22.1040800@redhat.com> <20110210111354.GA21681@redhat.com> <4D53DF42.4030700@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: <4D53DF42.4030700@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Chris Wright , Gleb Natapov , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Markus Armbruster , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Blue Swirl On 02/10/2011 02:51 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 02/10/2011 12:13 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote: >> >> Which spec? Even in this discussion we completely mixed different >> things. 440FX is not a chipset. > > Yes, it is. It's a single silicon package with a defined pinout. If > you don't believe me, re-read the spec. > > It's a MCM with the PIIX3 being internally connected. The connection > between the i440fx and PIIX3 happens to be PCI but that's not always > the case. Sometimes it's a proprietary bus. Aren't they two distinct chips, together comprising the chip-set? One (the northbridge) converts the system bus to PCI + some extra wires, the other (southbridge) bridges PCI to ISA and contains some embedded ISA devices. IIRC there are some wires between them that are not PCI. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function