From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:04:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D53F06C.9090500@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110210132730.GB24525@redhat.com>
On 02/10/2011 02:27 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> I don't care how command line will look like, but I do not see how you
> will support ide=off without device composition unless you put ad-hoc
> ifs all over your i440fx device code.
>
Yes, in the piix3 device code, the ide property would trigger an if().
BTW, I'm extremely sceptical that you really do have machines w/o IDE at
all. Even the servers we ship with only SAS or SCSI support still have
an integrated IDE controller.
Since most servers are built from the same chipset design that has IDE,
I don't really see how you could build a modern system without IDE.
>> And that's okay, but the base modelling ought to follow rea
>> hardware closely with deviations being the exception.
>>
>>
> You keep saying this without explaining why. But with device composition
> you will have exactly that, you will compose real chipsets using config
> files, not code.
>
Yeah, that's been the direction we've been going in since qdev was
introduced. I'm now convinced that this is overly ambitious. By simply
reducing the scope of conversion, we get 99% of the benefit with 10% of
the effort. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> --
> Gleb.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-10 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-08 15:55 [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8 Chris Wright
2011-02-08 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-08 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-08 17:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 19:02 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-08 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 8:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 8:20 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-09 9:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 19:30 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-08 19:30 ` Aurelien Jarno
2011-02-09 8:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 10:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 17:38 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-08 21:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 8:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 10:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 12:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 17:48 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-09 19:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 20:15 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-10 7:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 8:16 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 8:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 9:04 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 10:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:38 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 11:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:06 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 19:22 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:29 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 9:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 11:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 14:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-02-10 14:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 16:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-11 18:14 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 9:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 19:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 21:00 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 22:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 17:31 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 20:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 21:25 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 21:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 17:11 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-15 23:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-16 9:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-14 9:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-10 10:29 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-13 15:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-13 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 10:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 21:24 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 22:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 23:35 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 15:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-11 17:54 ` Blue Swirl
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