From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
markus_mueller@de.ibm.com, marcel.mittelstaedt@de.ibm.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ryanh@us.ibm.com,
abeekhof@redhat.com, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:08:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5CE57E.4040508@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D5CDBD0.2060900@redhat.com>
On 02/17/2011 10:26 AM, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> On 02/16/11 18:22, Michael Roth wrote:
>> We've seen similar behavior. I think it comes down to qemu-va being
>> linked against shared objects in the host that don't necessarily
>> coincide with what's in the guest. It's somewhat misleading that we
>> currently build qemu-va along with the binary, since qemu-va is not
>> meant to be used on the host, and the version built on the host is not
>> meant to be used in the guest.
>>
>> Really the guest binary, qemu-va, should be built in a proper build
>> environment for that particular guest. Long term it may make sense to
>> have a "guest-utils" target that isn't part of the normal host-build
>> process to reflect binaries with these kinds of requirements. For now I
>> think we'll may just end up removing qemu-va from the default make
>> target, and only build it explicitly with "make qemu-va".
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I am not sure I was totally clear in my mail, but the crashes I saw were
> QEMU on the host that went down. Not qemu-va running in the guest. My
> worry is that we are adding a lot of complexity into QEMU on the host
> side which is going to be difficult to audit, especially with things
> like the HTML and XML processing. If we separated host side processing
> into a separate command, we could better protect ourselves against a
> situation where a rogue guest could kill QEMU and possibly exploit it on
> the host side. I think we should seriously look at moving the agent
> processing code out of main QEMU and into a standalone command, maybe
> qemu-va-host or something like that.
+1
Qemu will fork this qemu-va-host process so it won't be an extra burden
on the management, qemu and his son should talk over pipe, passing the
qmp commands to it.
>
> There has been talk about doing the same thing with the monitor in the
> past, and have it talk to the main QEMU process over QMP. This pretty
> much goes along the same lines, except that I think we need the XML
> handling moved out with it, so we couldn't just layer it directly on top
> of QMP.
>
>> P.S. Hoping to have the execute-RPCs-in-seperate-threads work done soon
>> so we can get back to integrating your patches.
>
> Sounds good!
>
> Cheers,
> Jes
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-17 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-17 13:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 01/23] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 02/23] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 03/23] Make qemu timers available for tools Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:26 ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 7:56 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 04/23] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 05/23] virtagent: transport definitions read/send callback functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 06/23] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 07/23] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:55 ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:16 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-24 16:51 ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 17:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 08/23] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-01-21 18:23 ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 22:08 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:20 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-24 22:48 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 23:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 0:22 ` Michael Roth
2011-01-25 0:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 9:21 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-25 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 15:43 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-26 13:01 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 09/23] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 10/23] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 11/23] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 12/23] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 13/23] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 14/23] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 15/23] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 16/23] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 17/23] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 18/23] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 19/23] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 20/23] virtagent: add va.capabilities RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 21/23] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 22/23] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 23/23] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 14:53 ` Michael Roth
2011-01-18 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-18 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-31 14:41 ` Michael Roth
2011-02-01 22:18 ` Michael Roth
2011-02-14 9:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-16 16:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-16 17:22 ` Michael Roth
2011-02-17 8:26 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-17 9:08 ` Dor Laor [this message]
2011-02-17 14:39 ` Michael Roth
2011-02-18 12:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 14:30 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-21 8:32 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-21 13:36 ` Michael Roth
2011-02-21 13:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 15:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-18 15:25 ` Anthony Liguori
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4D5CE57E.4040508@redhat.com \
--to=dlaor@redhat.com \
--cc=Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com \
--cc=abeekhof@redhat.com \
--cc=agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=lcapitulino@redhat.com \
--cc=marcel.mittelstaedt@de.ibm.com \
--cc=markus_mueller@de.ibm.com \
--cc=mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
--cc=ryanh@us.ibm.com \
--cc=stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).