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From: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
To: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	markus_mueller@de.ibm.com, marcel.mittelstaedt@de.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ryanh@us.ibm.com,
	abeekhof@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:45:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5E69EB.5040805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D5D3331.1000707@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 02/17/11 15:39, Michael Roth wrote:
> On 02/17/2011 02:26 AM, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>> On 02/16/11 18:22, Michael Roth wrote:
>> worry is that we are adding a lot of complexity into QEMU on the host
>> side which is going to be difficult to audit, especially with things
>> like the HTML and XML processing. If we separated host side processing
>> into a separate command, we could better protect ourselves against a
>> situation where a rogue guest could kill QEMU and possibly exploit it on
>> the host side. I think we should seriously look at moving the agent
>> processing code out of main QEMU and into a standalone command, maybe
>> qemu-va-host or something like that.
> 
> I don't think the problem is really so fundamental...if you saw a
> host-side crash it's most likely a bug/sloppy error-handling in
> virtagent. Malformed xml (from version mismatches, transports errors,
> etc) shouldn't crash xmlrpc-c... it's using a libxml parser that just
> returns an error on unexpected xml...we just need to make sure we handle
> errors appropriately.

Hi Michael,

It may not be so fundamental, but it still makes me wary. XMLRPC
handling is quite high level and introduces the potential of errors that
are outside of our direct control. Personally I don't see the big
benefit of having virtagent terminate in QEMU, if anything it actually
makes me wary. I would quite like to see the monitor moved out of QEMU
as well and into it's own process - the simpler we make QEMU in this
regard, the more secure it will be to run. Using either a fork()
approach or simply a separate process that connects to the QEMU process
seems a very reasonable approach IMHO.

> Can you provide some details on what you ran and what the error message
> was?

It's a bit tricky, I was running a my tests over VNC on a remote system
(think trans-Atlantic latency) while having 10 people watch while I
typed the commands. It seemed that pretty much every agent command was
causing it, including ping, but unfortunately I didn't save the backtrace.

Cheers,
Jes

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-18 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 13:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 01/23] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:56   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 02/23] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 03/23] Make qemu timers available for tools Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:26     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24  7:56       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 04/23] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 05/23] virtagent: transport definitions read/send callback functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 06/23] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 07/23] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:55     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:16       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-24 16:51         ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 17:04           ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 08/23] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:20     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-01-21 18:23       ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 22:08         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:20           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-24 22:48               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 23:40                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  0:22                   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-25  0:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  9:21                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-25 15:12                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 15:43                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-26 13:01                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 09/23] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 10/23] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 11/23] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 12/23] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 13/23] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 14/23] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 15/23] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 16/23] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 17/23] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 18/23] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 19/23] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 20/23] virtagent: add va.capabilities RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 21/23] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 22/23] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 23/23] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 14:53   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-18 14:02     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-18 14:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-31 14:41         ` Michael Roth
2011-02-01 22:18           ` Michael Roth
2011-02-14  9:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-16 16:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-16 17:22   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-17  8:26     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-17  9:08       ` Dor Laor
2011-02-17 14:39       ` Michael Roth
2011-02-18 12:45         ` Jes Sorensen [this message]
2011-02-18 14:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 14:30             ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-21  8:32                 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-21 13:36                   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-21 13:38                     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 15:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-18 15:25               ` Anthony Liguori

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