From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, avi@redhat.com
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:14:11 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D644343.4050800@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110222230935.GA11082@amt.cnet>
On 02/22/2011 05:09 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:11:06PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> On 02/22/2011 03:07 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:50:09PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>>>> +static int write_commit_file(BdrvCopyState *s)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> + char commit_msg[1400];
>>>>> + const char *buf = commit_msg;
>>>>> + int len, ret;
>>>>> +
>>>>> + sprintf(commit_msg, "commit QEMU block_copy %s -> %s\n", s->src_device_name,
>>>>> + s->dst_filename);
>>>>> +
>>>>> + len = strlen(commit_msg);
>>>>> + while (len> 0) {
>>>>> + ret = write(s->commit_fd, buf, len);
>>>>> + if (ret == -1&& errno == EINTR) {
>>>>> + continue;
>>>>> + }
>>>>> + if (ret<= 0) {
>>>>> + return -errno;
>>>>> + }
>>>>> + buf += ret;
>>>>> + len -= ret;
>>>>> + }
>>>>> +
>>>>> + if (fsync(s->commit_fd) == -1) {
>>>>> + return -errno;
>>>>> + }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> This is more or less black magic. What is this commit file used for
>>>> and why aren't we using something like a QMP event?
>>>>
>>> The commit file is considered reliable storage for the result of image
>>> switch operation. Think of the following scenario:
>>>
>>> - mgmt app requests live copy of guests ide1-hd0
>>>
>> >from /a/image.img to /b/image.img.
>>
>>> - mgmt app dies.
>>> - guest switches to /b/image.img, /a/image.img is outdated.
>>> - guest dies.
>>>
>>> Notifying the switch via QMP would not be reliable in this case.
>>>
>> But this is true of any number of operations in QEMU such as hotplug
>> where if a management tool dies after requesting hotplug and then
>> the guest dies before the management tool reconnects, it's never
>> known whether it's truly connected or not.
>>
> This is a different case. The mgmt tool should be able to safely store
> the desired device tree before hotplugging a device.
>
> And even if you consider that should be done by QEMU, in a config file,
> restarting the guest with or without the device is not going to result
> in data corruption/loss.
>
If a guest started writing to a disk and is storing important data
there, and then the guest is restarted and the disk (and data) isn't
there, I'd classify that as data loss.
>> The only way to robustly solve this is for QEMU to maintain a
>> stateful config file. A one-off for this particular command doesn't
>> seem wise to me.
>>
> I don't disagree the commit message could be in a config file, but since
> that does not exist, a separate file is a workable solution.
I disagree. This is something we'll have to maintain forever and what's
to stop us from having additional one-off mechanisms to deal with this
same problem.
-drive already ties into the qemuopts infrastructure and we have
readconfig and writeconfig. I don't think we're missing any major
pieces to do this in a more proper fashion.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Also, the
> separate commit file is not incompatible with future improvements.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-22 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-22 17:00 [Qemu-devel] [patch 0/3] live block copy (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 1/3] add migration_active function Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:07 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 23:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 23:14 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-02-23 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 17:18 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 20:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-23 21:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 14:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-24 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 15:22 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27 9:55 ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 16:02 ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 17:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 8:58 ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 14:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 15:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27 17:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 8:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 12:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 17:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 17:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 18:12 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4D6CBECF.8090805@redhat.c! om>
[not found] ` <4D6CB556.5060401@redhat.c! om>
2011-03-01 8:59 ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 12:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-02 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01 9:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-01 15:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01 22:27 ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 21:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 18:56 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01 9:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:17 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-23 16:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 5:41 ` [Qemu-devel] Unsubsribing James Brown
2011-02-24 10:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Markus Armbruster
2011-02-23 20:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 12:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-25 7:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 8:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 15:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 16:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 17:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 19:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-26 0:02 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 19:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01 2:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 15:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 3/3] do not allow migration if block copy in progress Marcelo Tosatti
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