From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57427 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PsFcq-0000H7-Oc for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:23:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PsFcZ-0002aU-0x for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:23:16 -0500 Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.212.45]:64165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PsFcY-0002aO-TO for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:23:14 -0500 Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so3806546vws.4 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 06:23:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D651858.9040106@codemonkey.ws> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:23:20 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Strategic decision: COW format References: <4D5BC467.4070804@redhat.com> <4D5E4271.80501@redhat.com> <4D5E8031.5020402@codemonkey.ws> <4D637A20.9020307@redhat.com> <4D650F10.3060900@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4D650F10.3060900@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Kevin Wolf , Chunqiang Tang , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster , Stefan Hajnoczi On 02/23/2011 07:43 AM, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 02/22/2011 10:56 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: >> *sigh* >> >> It starts to get annoying, but if you really insist, I can repeat it >> once more: These features that you don't need (this is the correct >> description for what you call "misfeatures") _are_ implemented in a way >> that they don't impact the "normal" case. And they are it today. >> > > Plus, encryption and snapshots can be implemented in a way that > doesn't impact performance more than is reasonable. We're still missing the existence proof of this, but even assuming it existed, what about snapshots? Are we okay having a feature in a prominent format that isn't going to meet user's expectations? Is there any hope that an image with 1000, 1000, or 10000 snapshots is going to have even reasonable performance in qcow2? Regards, Anthony Liguori > Compression perhaps not, but if you choose compression, then > performance is not your top consideration. That's the case with > filesystems that support compression as well. >