From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:58:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D661DA2.2050102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110223174917.GA4630@amt.cnet>
On 02/23/2011 07:49 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 03:01:14PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 02/23/2011 01:14 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > >
> > >-drive already ties into the qemuopts infrastructure and we have
> > >readconfig and writeconfig. I don't think we're missing any major
> > >pieces to do this in a more proper fashion.
> >
> > The problem with qemu config files is that it splits the
> > authoritative source of where images are stored into two. Is it in
> > the management tool's database or is it in qemu's config file?
> >
> > For the problem at hand, one solution is to make qemu stop after the
> > copy, and then management can issue an additional command to
> > rearrange the disk and resume the guest. A drawback here is that if
> > management dies, the guest is stopped until it restarts. We also
> > make management latency guest visible, even if it doesn't die at an
> > inconvenient place.
> >
> > An alternative approach is to have the copy be performed by a new
> > layered block format driver:
> >
> > - create a new image, type = live-copy, containing three pieces of
> > information
> > - source image
> > - destination image
> > - copy state (initially nothing is copied)
> > - tell qemu switch to the new image
> > - qemu starts copying, updates copy state as needed
> > - copy finishes, event is emitted; reads and writes still serviced
> > - management receives event, switches qemu to destination image
> > - management removes live-copy image
> >
> > If management dies while this is happening, it can simply query the
> > state of the copy.
> > Similarly, if qemu dies, the copy state is persistent (could be 0/1 or
> > real range of blocks).
>
> You don't know if a given block is uptodate or not without the dirty
> bitmap. So unless you also keep track of dirty log somehow, this is
> meaningless.
First, you no longer need the dirty bitmap. Since all writes go through
the layered block format driver, you know first-hand what is dirty and
what isn't.
> So a commit file as proposed indicates copy state (in 0/1 fashion). The
> difference in your proposal is that such information is stored inside a
> special purpose image format?
>
It could also store the already synced range.
The difference is that the file is self contained. You could hot-unplug
the image and hot-plug it later (continuing the copy with qemu-img), or
live migrate it. In fact I think a qemu RAID-1 driver removes the
restriction that you can't live-migrate and live-copy simultaneously.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-24 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-22 17:00 [Qemu-devel] [patch 0/3] live block copy (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 1/3] add migration_active function Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:07 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 23:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-22 23:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 15:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 17:18 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 20:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-23 21:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 14:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-24 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 15:22 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27 9:55 ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 16:02 ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 17:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 8:58 ` Dor Laor
2011-02-27 14:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 15:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-27 17:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 8:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 12:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 17:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 17:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-28 18:12 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4D6CBECF.8090805@redhat.c! om>
[not found] ` <4D6CB556.5060401@redhat.c! om>
2011-03-01 8:59 ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 12:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-02 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01 9:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-01 15:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-01 22:27 ` Dor Laor
2011-03-02 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-02 21:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 18:56 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01 9:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 16:17 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-23 16:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 5:41 ` [Qemu-devel] Unsubsribing James Brown
2011-02-24 10:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [patch 2/3] Add support for live block copy Markus Armbruster
2011-02-23 20:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-24 12:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-25 7:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-23 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 8:58 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-24 15:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 15:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 16:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-24 17:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-27 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 21:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-23 19:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-26 0:02 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-28 19:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-01 2:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-26 15:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-22 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch 3/3] do not allow migration if block copy in progress Marcelo Tosatti
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