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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: quintela@redhat.com
Cc: Yoshiaki Tamura <tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 22/22] migration: Make state definitions local
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:46:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D666F3C.9050401@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3hbbt39l4.fsf@trasno.org>

On 02/24/2011 06:23 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> Yoshiaki Tamura<tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>  wrote:
>    
>> 2011/2/23 Juan Quintela<quintela@redhat.com>:
>>      
>>> Yoshiaki Tamura<tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>  wrote:
>>>        
>>>> 2011/2/23 Juan Quintela<quintela@redhat.com>:
>>>>          
>    
>>>> Although you're right, I would prefer to keep it so that somebody
>>>> outside of migration may understand the status in the future if
>>>> there are no harms.
>>>>          
>>> my plan is to move MigrationState inside migration.c, and then decide
>>> what to export/not export.
>>>        
>> Well, it may be just a policy, but it's already exported, and I
>> would like to keep it unless it bothers your plan.  IIUC, I don't
>> think it does.
>>
>>      
>>> Next thing to do is move migration to its
>>> own thread.  Before doing that, I need to know what parts are used/not
>>> used outside migration.c.  Removing it now means that nothing gets to
>>> use it without needing a patch.
>>>        
>> I've once asked Anthony whether it's possible to make migration
>> to different threads, but his answer was no due to hard
>> dependency of qemu's internal code, and making migration to
>> different threads are bad design.
>>      
> I know.  But Anthony is seeing the light O:-)
>    

Let's be very careful about quoting Anthony as he's known to be 
incoherent 90% of the time :-)

I don't quite recall the context of the discussion with Yoshi, but I'm 
not quite there in terms of advocating that we throw a bucket full of 
threads at migration.  I think we should move the ram migration to 
another I/O thread that doesn't hold a lock against the main I/O 
thread.  That's all.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Basically, without an own thread we are not able to:
> - do anything else while on incoming migration
>    (namely using the monitor)
> - do anything else than migration.  We can try hard and let vcpus to
>    run, but we would still clog the io_thread.
> - We are not able to saturate 10Gbit networking (basically we are doing
>    2/3 level of bufferering (depending on how you count).
>
> So, once code is there, I guess we will convince Anthony to commit it.
>
> Later, Juan.
>
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-24 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-23  0:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/22] Refactor and cleaup migration code Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] migration: Make *start_outgoing_migration return FdMigrationState Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] migration: Use FdMigrationState instead of MigrationState when possible Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  9:19   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] migration: Fold MigrationState into FdMigrationState Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:07   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  9:13     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] migration: Rename FdMigrationState MigrationState Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] migration: Refactor MigrationState creation Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] migration: Make all posible migration functions static Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  9:28   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] migration: move migrate_create_state to do_migrate Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] migration: Check that migration is active before cancel it Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:31   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  9:14     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] migration: Introduce MIG_STATE_NONE Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  9:36   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] migration: Refactor and simplify error checking in migrate_fd_put_ready Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  9:51   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23 10:08     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-02-23 11:36       ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] migration: Introduce migrate_fd_completed() for consistenncy Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] migration: Use migrate_fd_error() in last place that set status to ERROR Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:25   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] migration: Our release callback was just free Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] migration: Remove get_status() accessor Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:42   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  9:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] migration: Remove migration cancel() callback Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] migration: Move exported functions to the end of the file Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  9:07   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] migration: use global variable directly Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:15   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] migration: another case of global variable assigned to local one Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:54   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] migration: convert current_migration from pointer to struct Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:53   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] migration: Use bandwidth_limit directly Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] migration: Export a function that tells if the migration has finished correctly Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:50   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  0:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] migration: Make state definitions local Juan Quintela
2011-02-23  8:35   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  9:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-02-24  4:19       ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-24 12:23         ` Juan Quintela
2011-02-24 14:46           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-02-25  1:27             ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-25  1:20           ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-02-23  9:03 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/22] Refactor and cleaup migration code Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-23 10:15 ` Jan Kiszka

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